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SEL�F� TMEN S HEARING
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May 25, 1961
The Board of Selectmen held a hearing in Estabrook
Hall, Cary Memorial Building, on Thursday, May 25, 1961
at 8:00 P.M. Mr. Adams, Chairman pro tem, Messrs .
Ferguson, Richards and Cole were present . Mr. Carroll,
Superintendent of Public Works , Mr. Robert Higgins,
Assistant Town Engineer, Messrs . Soule, Grindle , Meyer,
and Mabee of the Planning Board., Mr. Snow, Planning
Director, and the Executive Clerk were also present .
The Chairman explained that the hearings were
being held for the purpose of making and establishing
layouts of the two streets to be pres: nted to the Hearing
Special Town Meeting on June 19 for acceptance by the Summit Rd .
Town. He stated that notices of the intention of the Buckman Dr .
Board to pass orders for the extensions and layouts had
been delivered by the Constable to all property owners
as they appear on the most recent tax list. He explained
that the hearings are a part of the legal process involved
when the Town accepts streets, and after acceptance , the
Town becomes liable for the maintenance and repair; that
no funds would be requested at the June meeting for con-
struction.
The Chairman advised th,. t this was an informal meet-
ing for the citizens and only the Town Meeting members
could decide the matter . He explained that plans were
available and Mr. Carroll and Mr. Higgins would answer
engineering questions . He also explained that the streets
would be constructed under the betterment act .
The Chairman explained that those who wished to be
recorded in favor would be given an opportunity to speak,
and then those who wished to be recorded in opposition
would be given an opportunity to speak. He asked each
speaker to give his name and address for the record.
The Chairman explained that in 1947 when a water
main was put through Buckman Drive , it was also extended
into the Fern Street-Moreland Avenue area and at that
time , the Board of Selectmen took a water easement from
Mr . Luongo. He said that in the records were several
conversations to the effect that some day that shoilld be
connected, and ever since that time, it was always felt
that a connection should be made as a matter of safety.
He stated that the Planning Board has a regulation to the
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effect that there should be no dead end street over 500
feet, and explained that within the last few years there
have been petitions from the people in the Fern Street,
Moon Hill area requesting a second exit . He said that
there had also been petitions from people on Buckman
Drive opposing it . The Selectmen turned the petitions
over to the Planning Board last spring for study and
he read a letter from the Planning Board dated Marph 7,
1961, recommending that the Selectmen prepare for the
next Town Meeting a layout for the Buckman Drive ex-
tension and also the extension of Summit Road to Fern
Street . He explained that was the reason for the hearing
this evening in anticipation of the June 19 Town Meeting,
and again stated that no funds would be requested at this
time . He said the Board would hear first from those in
favor.
Mr. George L. Francis, 36 Moreland Avenue , asked
if the money had already been provided, and the Chairman
replied in the negative . He explained that funds will
be requested at the Annual Town Meeting, if the streets
are accepted, and they will be in a contract after the
Annual Town Meeting.
Mr. Alfred E. Oliva, 20 Buckman Drive , asked if
funds for sewers would be used, and the Chairman replied
in the negative . He explained that the money for street
construction is for street construction only, and that the
s ewer appropriation is separate .
Mr. Harold Roeder, 6 Churchill Lane, said he under-
stood both streets would be constructed at the same time
if they are accepted.
The Chairman said if approved, they would be under .
the same contract.
Mrs. Walter Arnold, 79 Buckman Drive , asked about
the possibility of extending Moreland Avenue down into
the meadow.
Mr. Carroll explained the problem of connecting
Worthen Road to Route 2 has been plaguing the Town and
an effort has been made to obtain an answer from the
State as to what is going to be done with Route 2 at
Pleasant Street . He reported that a meeting has been
scheduled for next week with some State officials but
he did not know if an answer would be forthcoming.
He stated that it could be five or ten years before the
Town knows exactly what is going to happen before Route
2 is widened and the connection made . He said he hoped
to obtain information as to where the Town can bring
Worthen Road through and when it has been brought through,
there is no reason why Moreland Avenue could not connect.
1Dr. Robert J. Brennan, 21 Buckman Drive , asked what
the meaning was of public safety that the Planning Board
set forth.
Mr. Soule replied it was public safety as regard to
dead end streets . He said the Planning Boa 'd has set a
policy on subdivisions whereby no street shall be ex-
tended more than 500 feet without a second means of ac-
cess . He said if some accident should block the road
into the 500 foot area, it would be well in the interest
of public safety to have an egress for fire apparatus,
ambulance andsnow plows .
Mr. Donald R. Grant, 22 Summit Road, said that no
funds would be requested for construction at the coming
Town Meeting and asked how much money would be requested
under these articles for engineering services or acqui-
sition of land.
Mr. Carroll replied that as he understood the Board' s
decision, only a small amount would be appropriated at
this time for land acquisition. He said the total amount
did not have to be appropriated to acquire the land.
Mr. Grant asked what the estimate for land acquisition
was .
Mr. Carroll replied that Summit Road is alreadyJaid
out, a layout has been recorded and the land acquisition
would be small, He explained that onuckman Drive the
Town would probably have to pay for two fifty-foot lots
owned by Mr. Luongo
Mr. Grant asked if any estimates had been made of
the cost of constructing Buckman Drive .
Mr. Carroll replied it would cost approximately
11 ,000.
Mr. Grant asked about the cost of constructing
Summit Road..
Mr. Carroll replied that it would cost about *13,500
for the 700 foot section. He said he also felt that a
water main should be installed in Summit Road at an
estimated cost of $4,000, totaling *17,500. He said he
recommended to the Board that if this road is constructed,
the existing section of Summit Road, a public way at the
present time , should be widened and that will cost an
estimated *8,000 or a total of *25,500.
Mr. Grant asked the Planning Boad why it was nedes-
sary to create two additional accesses to the Monn Hill
area.
Mr. Soule replied that the Planning Board' s recom-
mendation would not create access to the Moon Hill area
alone but to the other area from Dawes Road on.
Mr. Grant asked if it was the area served by Fern
Street and Moon Hill .
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Mr. Soule replied it is to open an access to the
Moon Hill area and another to the Follen Hill area which
has 1300 feet of road down to a dead end. He said
originally one connection had been proposed but at a':<
meeting of the people on Follen Hill, there was a traffic
objection and the Board felt that two means of access
would tend to spread the traffic and reduce it on Buckman
Drive .
Mr. Grant asked if Mr. Soule would be prepared to re-
commend to Town Meeting, in order to prevent all of the in-
creased flow of traffic on Buckman Drive, that the Town
should spend $25,000.
Mr. Soule said the population is now almost up to
29,000 and growing to 50,000 or 55,000. He said in the
future these connections would have to be made in order
to have a free flow of traffic through the Town. He
said people like to live on dead end streets that are
quiet, but for the interest of progress and free circu-
lation of traffic throughout the Town, these connections
will have to be made .
Mr. Grant said that Mr. Carroll expects in five
years it might be possible to determine where Worthen
Road is going. He asked why it is necessary at this
point to lay out and construct Buckman Drive and Summit
Road at the same time , particularly with the cost of
each.
Mr. Soule replied it is to get rid of 1100 feet
and 1300 foot dead ends.
Mr. Grant said Summit Road is not a deadeend except
at the last portion.
Mr. Arthur Anthony, 33 Summit Road, had to leave
the meeting and asked to be recorded in opposition.
Mr. Grant asked if the Planning Board had given
any consideration to the effect the law permitting fire
trucks and ambulances the right to go on private lawns .
Mr. Soule replied that-the Board had considered
that but does not consider it good policy to run public
vehicles on private property. He said the streets should
be accepted, plowed, and have free access for emergency
equipment.
Mr . Grant disagreed.
Mrs . Jan Leyenaar, 30 Mor-. land Avenue , asked the
present width of Fern Street at its narrowest width.
Mr. Carroll replied that it is somewhere around
fifteen feet.
Mr. Douglass A. Allred, 38 Summit Road, said the
length of the two proposed streets is about 200 feet
and 700 feet, a ratio of about three to one . He said
he gathered from $4,000 for Buckman Drive and $13,000
for Summit Road, that the expected road building program
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would have the same degree of diffinity .
Mr. Carroll replied that there would be more diffi-
culty in building Summit Road.
Mr. Allred asked if there was any ledge on Buckman
Drive , and Mr. Carroll replied in the negative .
Mr. Allredsaid that Sum -it Road has about 1,000
cubic yards of ledge to be removed. He said the cost
of removing that had been omitted from the cost of the
road construction .
Mr. Carroll stated that it had not . He explained
that Summit Road has been broken down into two costs ; one ,
the wooded section and one, the section not wooded. He
stated that it would cost about $25 a foot to construct
the section through the woods and about $15 a foot for
Buckman Drive , for instance . He explained when the
higher cost--is spread over the entire length of the now
private way of Summit Road, then the cost per foot is
reduced .
Mr. Allred asked for an idea of what the estimate
is for removing the ledge .
Mr. Carroll replied that he has not estimated it
and stated that he has made numerous estimates on street
construction and usually makes them higi enough. He said
the amount of money he has requested is sufficient .
Mr . Allred said he could understand the need for
entrance and egress and he could see there would be a
reasonable need for a second means of access from the
Moon Hill area, but he failed to understand how it
applies to the Summit Road extension. He said it seemed
to him that a second means of egrees somewhere else
would be much better . He said it would appear that
the only reason for the extension of Summit Road was to
ease a traffic problem and asked Mr. Soule if that was
correct .
Mr. Soule replied it is used in conjunction with
Buckman Drive as a means of egress and secondly, to
ease the flow of traffic .
Mr. Allred asked if the major ree-son was to ease
the flow of traffic, and Mr. Soule replied that he
would not pin Summit Road as the re ;.son being only for
access, but would say it was in conjunction with free
flow of traffic throughout the Town.
Mr. Allred said with access from some other end, the
free flow of traffic would be adequate and it would seem
better to widen Fern Street.
The Chairman explained at this point that both
Summit Road and Buckman Drive would be constructed under
the Betterment Act.
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Mr. John F. Groden, 12 Summit Road, asked if any
study had been made regarding the cost of an access
from Moon Hill to Pleasant Street and secondly from
Moreland Avenue to Blossom Street or Moreland Avenue
to Route 2.
The Chairman explained that coming up from Pleasant
Street, Millican Road would be very costly. •
Mr. Groden said he meant the existing Allen Street,
and the Chairman explained that it was too far away. He
said it must be a mile away and no estimate has been
made on that .
Mr. Rotdnno, 48 Summit Road, inquired when benefit
would be derived by the people in the Follen Hill and
Buckman Drive areas .
Mr. Soule replied that there are eight families on
Dawes Road; seventeen on Buckman Drive , eight on Lantern
Lane and three on Philip Road, a total of thirty-six .
families in a singe access area .
Mr. Rotunno asked what the benefit was, and Mr.
Soule replied that he would go back to the free flow of
traffic benefit .
Mr. Rotunno asked where the people on Buckman Drive
and Summit Road would go when they go out those roads and
what would they benefit .
Mr . Soule replied that emergency equipment could be
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brought in.
Mr. Rotunno said that Moreland Avenue is a dead end
street with less access than there would ever be for any-
one on Summit Road. and Buckman Drive, yet the Planning
Board would divert them to a free access highway. He
asked if a traffic study had ever been made as to the
flow of traffic off Fern Street, Summit Road and Buckman
Drive .
The Chairman replied that he did not think such
a survey has been done.
Mr. Peter A. D'Arrigo, 1 Lantern Lane , said it is
not exactly a dead end street, that there is another
access . He said they could go up Locust then to Follen.
Mr. Alan S. Hodges, 21 Dawes Road, Chairman of the
Follen Hill Estates Association, said he was representing
eighty families on Buckman Drive who have been opposing
this for two years . Last year, a petition was submitted
opposing the extension , with 400 signatures. He said
there are sixty-three children fifteen years of age and
under, living on Buckman Drive and the three adjoining
streets . There are no sidewalks and people walk in the
streets . He said the traffic on Follen Road was heavy
because of its convenience as a short cut. He said if
Buckman Drive is opened up, the increase in traffic would
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produce a higher accident potential and increase the
hazards at the intersections of Marrett Road and Follen
Road; and at Locust Avenue and Massachusetts Avenue .
He said the association was aware of the desire for
additional access, but would like to refer to Article 19
in the Warrant of the last Town Meeting providing for
plans to lay out a sewer main between Pleasant Street
1 and the Woodhaven area. He stated that construction is
expected to start in 1962, to be followed by the extension
of Worthen Road across the same area providing a more
feasible and less hazardous access road to the area in
question . He said in the meantime , there are two access
roads available for emergency use .
Mr. Hodges said that the Planning Board recommended
that both roads be extended simultaneously; He said the
tax rate has increased 41;5.00 and is expected to increase
at least this amount each year in the future and with
more important expenditures, such as school construction
and sewer extensions, this is a good place to economize .
Mr. Michael J. Spinelli, 32 Buckman Drive , said he
did not think Buckman Drive was a dead end.
The Chairman explained that it is from the inter-
section. He said that could be blocked and shut off
the area.
Mr. George Francis, 36 Moreland Avenue , said this
seems to be a battle of the so-called Follen Hill Section
vs the Moon Hill area. He said many of the streets in
Follen Hill have a second access so they are not looking
for another one and op;,ose this . He asked if anyone
could set the financial amount of money that would have
to be paid for the life of one child or one person. He
said there is onlyone way to get in or out of Moreland
Avenue and Davis oad . He stated that Fern Street is
fifteen feet wide and in the wintertime , with an oil
struck parked on the street, it is almost impossible to
get by. Two years ago, the 19th of April, there were
two buses parked there and he had to wait two hours to
get up the street because there was no other way.
Mr. Carroll Taylor, 28 Summit Road, said that Mr.
Soule had stated there was a desire to eliminate all
dead end areas and have free access. He said he was
interested in this problem. For many years he has
been receiving architectural journals and it has been
his observation that in large areas involving cities
and towns with Planners, they are trying to create what
the Planning Board in Lexington is saying is undesirable .
He said it should not be necessary as a matter of policy
to go from one area to another . He said it is important
for people in each area to have adequate access, but it
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does not make sense to try and create a free exit road
from oneresidential area to another residential area .
He said if the Board did not think it was a problem, it
should go up there for about an hour some afternoon and
see the children in the area. He said the problem
should be to get the traffic off the Moon Hili. area.
The Chairman explained that this meeting was an
informational meeting and Town Meeting will have to
make the decisions .
Mrs . Emily Clark, 25 Moon Hill Road, said there
have been emergencies when the street has been shut
off and there was no way of getting out . She said
they could not get down through Millican Lane , and
on Sunday when the Sacred Heart Church is in session,
one cannot get up.
The Chairman stated that he lv.d been down and
looked at both of these streets and did not believe
that either piece of fire apparatus could possibly
get through.
Mrs. Henry Flynn, 26 Bird Hill Road, said there
is no way of getting out except Fern Street and a
second exit is needed without any delay at all.
Mr. Donald Grant, 22 Summit Road, asked if the
• Planning Board had made a survey that would tell how
many other dead end roads there are , 1300 feet in
length, in the Town.
Mr. Soule replied that he did not have the count,
but there are others .
He asked if Mr . Soule could tell at this point
what it would cost the Town to serve all these dead
end roads by some other access road, and Mr. Soule
replied in the negative .
Mr. Grant asked if Mr. Soule could tell the Town
how much of the cost would be recovered by betterments
and how much would be borneby the Town, and Mr. Soule .
replied that he was not prepared to answer that . He
said the hearing was on this one project now.
The Chairman said the Board would have the answer
for the Town Meeting.
Dr. Robert Brennan, 21 Buckman Drive , said there
has already been a fatal accident at the corner of
Buckman Drive and Dawes Road . He said the Moon Hill
area has been in existence now for fourteen years and
he could think of no dire emergency that has occurred.
The Chairman said the Board would have more in-
formation pertaining to accidents at the Town Meeting .
Mrs . Sanborn Brown, 37 Maple Street, said she
has had a long standing theory that children who live
on streets with very heavy traffic understand those
streets and the children on dead end street, do not.
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She said there has been no accident of any kind on
Maple Street involving the children in the fourteen
years she has lived there and this is because they 4nder-
stand the street.
Mr. Wilbur L. Peabody, Jr. , 6L Locust Avenue , said
the people in both areas chose them because of some
particular reason that they wanted to live in that area.
In his case , he wanted to live there because it was a
dead end . He said Moon Hill was laid out by choice and
the poeple made it a dead end. He :. said the talk has
been about a hypothetical accident . He stated that the
Moon Hill people themselves put bumps in the road and
at that time , did not want free way traffic . This has
gone on for many years and the people have lived with
it. He said Worthen Road will come along possibly in
five years and that seems the most desirable access .
Mrs . Frank Totman, 1+6 Moreland Avenue, said she
would like th e Boards to see Fern Street in the after-
noon when school is out and in the morning. She said
an accident has not happened but it could.
The Chairman explained that the widening of Fern
Street has been looked into and it involves taking
several homes .
Mr. Winthrop F. Potter, 25 Summit Road, asked the
I length of Moon Hill Road up to the traffic circle .
Mr. Soule replied that he did not know.
Mr. Potter askd what plans had been mace for an
access .
The Chairman explained that was one of the reasons
for the present regulation.
Mr. Potter asked if Worthen Road could be built
from Moreland Avenue through to Pleasant Street and
an exit created from Six Moon Hill area. He said it
would be advancing the construction of Worthan Road.
He said the problem would be with the intersection of
Watertown Street and at Route 2. He said the section
through the foot of Moon Hill Road by Beaver Brook is
one route Worthen Road could take . If the construction
of that part of Worthen Road were advanced, it could
give ready access and that seems to be the ultimate plan.
The Chairman explained that no one would like to
have the road built any more than the Board of Selectmen.
He explained that the State has taken some of the land there
and entrance is going to be very difficult.
Mr. Potter said that if Summit Road is connected
through to Moreland Avenue , the traffic congestion at
the junction of Summit Road and Fern Street would be a
hazard.
Mr. J hn Flavin, 34 Independence Road, asked if any
1 plans had Veen made by the Police Department to control
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the traffic . He said they could not cope with it now.
The Chairman replied that no study has been made
and Mr. Flavin said there should be .
Mr. George Matheson, 62 Buckman Drive , asked if
the Planning Board had given any thought to Millican
Road.
Mr. Soule replied in the affirmative and stated
that it is a ten foot right-of-way with a blind corner
on Pleasant Street and does not seem feasible to the
Planning Board.
Mr. Matheson asked why Millican Road could not be
discussed.
The Chairman explained that there were construction
problems them .
Mr. Metheson asked if Moon Hill Road would have an
egrees to Worthen Rod, if developed,and Mr. Soule replied
in the affirmative .
Mr. Matheson asked if the cost had been determined,
and Mr. Soule replied that he had no estimate .
Mrs . Emily Clark, 25 Moon Hill Road, said she thought
there were three houses on both sides of Millican Road
and she did not think the street could be widened.
Mr. Winthrop potter, 25 Summit Road, said he has
lived in the Town for thirty-seven yers and on Summit
Road since 1934, and has walked all over the area. He
said in the old days, Millican Lane was a right-of-way
and shown on an existing map, at least part way, as an
unimproved dirt road. He said it is a hard gravel
road and until recently, cars did use it . He said since
Moon Hill was built, cars have gone down through that
lane . He said it is not in use now because one of the
abbtters has blocked it . He said it seemed to him that
it could be made into an emergency egress from Moon Hill
by having the dirt removed. He said there are only three
houses on Millican Lane , but there are more than three
on Fern Street .
The Chairman explained that there has been con-
siderable discussion as to the legal status of Millican
Lane .
Mr. Douglas Allred, 38 Summit Road, asked if the
extension of Worthen Road was contingent upon State
action in that area.
The Chairman replied that he would say 90%, that
it is .
Mr. Allred said if the road is going in anyway,
what would prevent laying it out and constructing it .
The Chairman explained that Worthen Road is going
through large tracts of land to be built by private
developers and it is hoped that as the land is developed,
it will be part of the subdivision. He said it has to
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jointRoute 2. Originally it had been planned to join
it at Pleasant Street . However, the State came along
and planned to widen Route 2 and made it non access .
He said th-t is what stymied the plans for Worthen Roac .
He said if the Town can' t go on at Pleasant Street, it
must be joined at Watertown Street.
Mr . Allred asked if the opening of any private pro-
perty would be held up until Route 2 is cleared up and
the Chairman replied not necessarily.
Mr. Allred requested that the Planning Board
investigate the possibility of extending Worthen Road
with the Town funds .
Dr. Robert Brennan, 21 Buckman Drive , asked if there
was any real emergency about this .
Mr . Soule replied that he. did not see any real
emergency but it is in the current plans of the Town.
He said the plan was started, he believed, in 1948, and
it is now 1961. The Board is just getting around to it .
The Chairman said that the Board of Selectmen did
feel it is an emergency. He said there have been a
number of petitions that the Board feels cannot be `
ignored, but if the Town Meeting decided not to vote it,
the Board could not do anything about it . He stated
that petitions have been presented from both sides and
they cannot be ignored.
Dr. Robert Brennan, 21 Buckman Drive, said he has
lived there since 1954 and there has been only one peti-
tion.
The Chairman stated that there have been a number
of letters and, speaking for himself, he has always felt
there should be an exit there and this was long before
any houses were built there .
Mrs . Mary Dentler, 99 Follen Road, said she thought
the full responsibility of the problem rested with the
Planning Board. She said she could not imagine a
dexelopment being approved with only one exit .
Mr. Harold Roeder, as Chairman of the Board of Fire
Commissioners, said he believed that the section of
Moon Hill Road does need two exits for that area. He
stated that he has been on the Board for about thirteen
years -nd is not saying that the solution is Summit Road
or Buckman Drive and has been over the entire area with
the Board.. He said last night the Board' s attention
was called to the fact that it is possible to get into
the area at the end of Summit Road . If something could
be done down there the Fire Department could get the
ambulance and fire trucks in there . He explained that
IIthe Fire Department has keys to many of the public
• Buildings, and suggested that possibly this way could be
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blocked off and the Fire Department be given a key so it
could get through there . In the meantime , it would give
the Planning Board an opportunity to find out what is
going to happen before a substantial amount of money is
spent .
Mr.Rottunno, 48 Summit Road, said that there is an
entrance at Fern Street and Summit Road. He stated
that Summit Road is used because it is one very diffi-
cult street to get off of. He said he was sympathetic .
with the problem but he thought the Planning Board has
more studying to do . He stated that his father, a
planner, has looked at this and thinks more study should
be done . He said there is a problem that must be resolved
by good planning. Mr. Rottunno suggested that an emergency
road be put through. He said there is a driveway there
and a rock pile that has to come out . He and Mr . Allred
talked to one of Mr. Carroll ' s men who said it would
cost $1.00 a square yard to take the rock pile out of
there . He suggested that the Board take a look at this
for an emergency entrance . He said there would be no
objection on his part or on his parents ' part and they
would permit vehicles to go through there on an emergency.
He said the people on Moreland Avenue have the right of
protection that all the rest of the people on other streets
have . He said he was willing to permit the property to be
used for the benefit of his neighbors in Moon Hill.
Mr. John Wilson, 62 Fern Street, said that rock pile
was on his"property. He stated that he put it there and
let these people come out onto his driveway. He said all
the property there belongs to him, down to his post on
the corner of Moreland Avenue and to the Town stone at
the e.nd of Fern Street.
Mr. Ernest Smith, 50 Fern Street, said the real
emergency is not fire engines, but the children who have
to go up there every day because the is no sidewalk. •
Mrs . Mary C . Bermingham, 26 Bird Hill Road, said
she represented Mrs . Rees, 14 Bird Hill Road, who wished
to be recorded as being in favor of an access.
Mrs . Wintrhop Potter, 25 Summit Road, said basically
the Planning Board is assuming what is wanted is a gridiron.
They say it is not an emergency. She asked why the Plan-
ning Board assumed that this lb better than isolated
neighborhoods . She said the people here agree that Moon
Hill should have another access and she asked if the
Planning Board felt there should be a gridiron all over
Town.
The Chairman said the question would be noted.
The Chairman read a letter from Mr . Aiden L. Ripley
opposing the proposed layouts . II
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The Chairman took a standing vote and asked all
thosein favor of the proposed layout of Buckman Drive
and Summit Road to raise their hands . Twelve people were
in favor. He then asked for those who opposed, and
seventy-five people opposed.
Mr . Winthrop Potter, 25 Summit Road, said that in
view of this vote he urged the Selectmen that neither
article be inserted in the warrant, substituting an
article for an appropriation to have a competent Town
Planner or Engineering firm make a study of the entire
area and make the best solution to the problem.
The hearings were declared closed at 9:35 P.M.
A true record, Attest :
,Eke i Clerk, Select en
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