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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1953-06-19205 BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING June 19, 1953 A regular meeting of the Board of Health was held in the Selectmen's Roans, Town Office Building on June 19thl, 1953 at 3.00 P.M. Chairman McQuillan, Dr. Cosgrove and Mr. Cole were present. Mr. Jackson, Health Sanitarian and the Clerk were also present. It was voted and approved by the members of the Board to re-elect Mr. McQuillan as Chairman of the Board for a term of Chairman one year. Letters were read and discussed from R. C. Savoye and Mrs. Alice Shannon re: manor sewer. It was agreed to have no more corres- pondence with Mr. Savoye on this subject until October 1st., 1953 at which time all sewer connections must be made. The Chairman Manor suggested that a letter be written to Mrs. Shannon extending Sewer the date until October 1st., 1953 for the manor sewreonnection. Complaints were read which were received from neighbors of John Brucchi, 63 Paul Revere Road, of damage done by horses and Brucchi ponies and it was agreed by the members to have Mr. Brucchi brought into Court for keeping horses without a permit. The Chairman suggested that Mr. Jackson take care of this and in- form Mr. Harold Stevens, the Town Counsel, of the action. Copy of bill from Whitman& Howard for services rendered to June 8, 1953 was noted by the Board. Report from L.V.N.A. of calls made during the month of May noted and filed. Report of the Rabies Clinic held May 25th. thru May 28th., 1953 by Dr. Benton, Animal Inspector for the Town, noted and filed. At 4.00 P.M. Mr. Harvey Newgent appeared before the Board to discuss further the Robinson Hill development and change its previous decision on the report submitted by Whitmen$e Howard. The following conversation took place. Mr. Newgent: In talking with the people from Whitman & Howard before I had read the report, I had been informed that that site up there could be taken care of without town sewage. I believe it means that 50% can have septic tanks and cesspools and 50% are questionable. It does not mean that it cannot be taken care of by cesspools and septic tanks. The Planning Board has gone along with the Board of Health. So frankly I cannot get anybody to say Yes or No until something can be re -stated to the Planning Board so that we can get something going. Mr. McQuillan: How about connecting to the sewer on Mass. Avenue; Mr. Newgent: Too much money, 22,000. The lots costing ! 500, it would mean would cost 43800. I was talking with the Chairman of the Board of Health in Hingham and he feels that if the same 206 case came up there, that they would at least meet it half way. After reading the report most people think some of the requests are a little rugged. The Board of Health must pass on it and then the Planning Board. Mr. Cole: Does $22,000 involve the cost to you of putting sewage there and no houses on it. Mr. Newgent: Yes. Would have to cross Massachusetts Avenue to Lincoln Street. My opinion is that when I get down there the sewer is inadequate. So what is the sense if the pipe is too small. I would like to have the Town state O.K., develop without the sewer if you can prove you can put in septic tanks or cesspools alright. If I didn't think it would be feasible, I wouldn't build there. I don't think there is any gamble at all. The Planning Board felt that I got a separate report because I reported at a meeting afterwards that I received the report from Mr. Jackson, and I had not received a separate report from Whitman & Howard as it so seemed. There is a difference of opinion as to what the report states. Mr. Jackson: A drawing that you made in your office and put Whitman & Howard's name on the bottom, but it was not authorized by Whitman & Howard. Mr. Newgent: I submitted drawings on what Whitman & Howard would probably expect. Mr. McQuillan: It has been put up to us that it is more of an engineering problem from a standpoint of town sewage and future town sewage. We govern our actions on the information from the Town Engineer and the Planning Board that they believe that a sewer is close enough, that they didn't think that we should issue a permit for any piece of land that is near enough to have the sewer. Mr. Newgent: What is the dividing line? 2500 feet too far? What is the right point? My nearest place to the back line to the street is 1900 feet. Mr. McQuillan: I want you to understand that the distance is not made by the Board of Health. We have to go along with the Town Engineer and the Planning Board and they feel and we feel that we should do as much as possible to keep from having any more septic tanks and cesspool areas in the town. Mr. Newgent: Why does the Town spend the money to have these reports made? Mr. McQuillan: The Planning Board thought that it would like to have a report on it, so we were of the same mind as the Engi- neering Department. Mr. Cole: These reports are made to find out in general the character of the whole development to see how much would be handled with septic tanks and how much would have to have sewage. Mr. McQuillan: If the property is near enough, it should be bigto 1 1 1 1 1 207 connected to the sewer, then they feel that in fairness to everyone, we will have a report made. Mr. Newgent: The night of the Planning Board meeting they said inasmuch as the Board of Health feels that way, we have to 'go along with their thinking and cannot make a change. Mr. McQuillan: We are creating a big cesspool and septic tank area between two main line sewers. Mr. Newgent: It would be up to the town to make the sewage lines. Mr. McQuillan: The Town will not do anything about putting the sewer in this area. Mr. Newgent: According to letters back and forth, the Board of Health b my way of thinking is supposed to give the Planning Board a decision according to the report of Whitman & Howard. Mr. Cole: Suppose you were allowed to go ahead with septic tanks and cesspools or leaching beds on the basis of a report lot by lot as you build? Mr. Newgent: Then I would be happy. Mr. Cole: But suppose some of these lots were condemned? Those that wish to build on ledge, would they be willing to pay for the amount of money involved? Mr. Newgent: Yes. Mr. Cole: Evidently the Plannin4 Board and the Engineers feel that with two direct sewers on each side of you, you are not the same as someone away from they' sewer where they can't join the sewer. They expect you to make a sewer of your own to join the town sewer. Mr. McQuillan: All the Planning Board wants from us is either that we approve or disapprove, and after they read the report they thought a lot had to be done. The Board of Health turned this down based upon the second paragraph of letter of April 34d. All we feel concerned with is the health problem. If this report stated that this sort of thing was needed to make it correct, don't think it is up to the Board of Health to refuse. Mr. Newgent: If I have to put the sewer in, the lots would be $4000 or $4500. I ask that the Board of Health make a report and reconsider the report made by Whitman & Howard as far as the Board of Health would believe that the cesspools and septic tanks can be used and that the lots that Whitman &Howard do not approve of, that the Board of Health check each lot. I am asking that the Board of Health report that this can be taken care of by septic tanks and cesspools and still will not be a health menace. Mr. McQuillan: As long as the Town Engineer tells us that this property is near enough to join with the sewer, we would not stick our necks out. I make the suggestion that we look this situation over again and discuss it and see if any different outcome will come of it. We will be perfectly willing to take the matter up with the 208 Planning Board. I feel that the problem is serious enough to discuss further. We will get together with the Planning Board and discuss the points that you brought up. The three groups should get together and discuss it and we will let you know. Mr. Newgent retired at 4.45 P.M. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant the following permits and li Unitarian Cooperative Ralph S. Taylor Robert J. Hulk John S. Misch John S. Misch, Jr. tenses: - Nursery School 5 Forest 'Court 16 Burlington St. 19 Hill Ave. Day Care of Children 12 P OUl try 2 Swine 2 Cows 1 Cow Permission to keep two cows was denied to Mr. John Misch of 19 Hill Avenue and also permission denied to John Misch, Jr., to keep one cow, April 17, 1953. At the request of Mr. Misch these applications were brought up again for reconsideration and it was voted to grant permission to both Mr. Misch and Mr. Misch, Jr., to keep two cows and one cow respectively. A letter was sent to Mr. Misch to this effect. Ampola Street, Lexington - a report from Whitman & Howard on sewage disposal on Ampola Street was taken up by the Board and the Chairman suggested that a letter be sent to the developer, quoting the first paragraph of this report. Report of Sanitarian for period May 15th to June 16, 1953 was noted and filed. The Meeting adjourned at 5.10 P.M. A true record, Attest: Clerk 1671 brit 1 1