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SELECTMEN'S MEETING
July 2, 1948
A special meeting of the Board of Selectmen
was held on Friday evening, July 2, 1948, at 7:45 p.m.
There were present: Chairman Paxton, Messrs. Emery,
Gay, Driscoll and Nickerson. Mr. Daniel A. Lynch,
Town Counsel, Mr. Joseph H. DeFoe, Suptt. of Public
works, and Mr. Robert Ryder were also present.
Mr. DeFoe presented plans showing the South
Branch of Vine Brook starting on the southerly side
of Winthrop Road Extension up to the so-called
Liberty Drive and then turning left angularly towards
Grape Vine Avenue on Kendall Road Extension.
Mr. Ryder asked how long the temporary easement
would last and what were the terms of the easement.
Mr. Lynch explained that the right of the temporary
easement lasted during the actual operation of the
work. Mr. Ryder wished to be assured that no trees
would be removed under the temporary easement.
Mr. Lynch advised him that if any trees were in the
way they could be removed but it was not likely
under the temporary easement. Under the permanent
easement some of the trees would probably have to
be cut down. He explained that there was a little
flexibility and if there was a valuable tree they
would try to circumvent it. Mr. DeFoe explained that
it would be difficult to save any trees once the
work was started on a long straight of way but there
might be some point where the line could be altered.
Mr. Ryder asked if any of the members of the Board
had gone over this -proposed easement to find out how
many trees, if any, might be affected, and what kind
of trees were there. He felt that this might make
a difference in the value of the easement. Mr. DeFoe
said the easement had been laid out to avoid any
large trees as far as possible. Mr, Ryder said he
thought he understood what the town wanted and was
ready to listen to their offer.
The Chairman explained that the Town was anxious
to get started on the sewer but it was necessary first,
to straighten out these easements. The question was
just how cheap they could get out of it.
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Mr. Ryder said he had talked with Mr. DeFoe ald
Mr. Burns some weeks ago and submitted his offer and his
only change in this offer was that if there Mare:a
substantial number of trees that could be converted
into wood in that right of way, which have to be cut down,
he felt that he should have the wood in addition to what
he had already requested.
He said it would not amount to a great deal but
if he doesn't take it the contractors will and he
thinks it should belong to him. He said it should be
cut in four foot lengths and piled on the side and
he.should have it as part of his compensation for the
easement. Mr. Ryder said he had made it just as easy
as he could when he made his proposition to Mr. DeFoe
and Mr. Burns because he wanted to co-operate with the
Town.
Mr. Paxton said that he thought these sewers
were going to service a large area but that they would
benefit the land through which. they will run and will
make possible a quicker development of the area. Mr.
Paxton said he understood that Mr. Ryder wanted (1)
to run the drain down Winthrop Road to Vine Brook and
the return of.the easement formerly given to the Town;
(2) cleaning of the Vine Brook; and (3) the return of
the Holmes Meadow Land.
Mr. Ryder stated that e_had made an offer to
the Town several months ago or the Holmes Meadow Land
but this offer was refused. He said he realized that
it had been given to the Planning Board for study but
that the land fits into his plans for developing this
section and he feels that it should now be given
back.to him. He said it did not cost the Town any-
thing and they had made some profit from the lots
which they had already sold. Mr. Ryder said he paid
$4,500 for it some years ago and had paid some taxes
to the Town on it.
.Mr. Ryder asked how many feet of pipe there were
from Sherburne'Road to the Brook. Mr. DeFoe replied
about 650 feet. Mr. -Ryder thought that this might
be dug up and reused. The Chairman said that the
cost of digging it up and the possibility of breakage
depends upon the type of pipe. If it is vitrified
clay pipe it will probably break. If it is cast
iron pipe it would be a different matter. He ex-
plained that the vitrified clay pipe stands a
certain amount of strain while buried in the ground
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but when exposed to the air would break easily.
The cost would be too great if it was this type of
pipe.
Mr. Nickerson asked if the area of the taking
had been competed and Mr. DeFoe replied that the
total area, North and South Branches was approx-
imately four and one-half acres. Mr. Nickerson
asked who was to determine a fair price per foot
for this land, Mr, Ryder said that he didn't think
it could be figured on that basis. The whole
picture would have to be considered. He felt that
some house lots would be lost to him and his
plans would have to be r evamped. Mr. Paxton said he
did not think the easement would ruin the house lots.
Mr. Ryder admitted he could sell them subject to the
easement. The chairman said the sewer, by necessity,
is running through the lowest possible section with
one exception. It runs through the least valuable
land and the lots least adapted to house lots.
Mr. Ryder said he was selling lots there at 12-15-
17 per foot,
Mr..Nickerson asked Mr. Ryder if he were going
to buy this particular strip of land what he would
be willing to pay for it. Mr. Ryder said this was
not a fair question inasmuch as the Town would be
using it for municipal purposes and with him it is
a question of how it will affedt his remaining
property, and of who will get the benefit.
Mr. Lynch asked if Mr. Ryder's plans as hub-
mitted to the Planning Board contemplated any build-
ing on this land and Mr. Ryder replied in the negative.
Mr. Ryder said he had very definite plans for this
land which he hoped to s tart working on within twelve
months if the land was returned to him.
Mr. Paxton said that off hand he thought Mr.
Ryder's request -was fair but he did not agree with
him that the Holmes land should be returned to him
at this time. He said that the Town had appropriated
money for the Planning Board for study, aerial photos
and general replanning of our municipality and as
this particular piece of property was near the center
it might enter into their recommendations for future
development.
Mr. Ryder told the Board that the Holmes land does
not run back to the brook. It runs two feet away from
the brook. He said he had sold some land to Tropeano
but that he still owned 45 feet free and clear of any
easement, and then he had the easement on top of
that, and if someone wanted to build a small house
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he owned the fee. He owns up to the Holmes land.
Mr. Paxton said these were sane of the reasons
why he felt that the Planning Board should have
more time to study this land and complete their
survey.
Mr. Ryder said the Town has the drainage and
sewer easements and still have the sttip between
that land and the land owned by him but that they
can't get out of it without his permission. Mr.
Lynch explained that they could take land for any
municipal purpose and make an entrance. It would
not have to be for highway purposes. The Chairman
asked Mr. Ryder if he would be willing to leave
the meeting for a few minutes while the Board dis-
cussed the subject and Mr. Ryder retired at 8:50p.m.
The Board discussed the matter at length and
Mr. Ryder returned to the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
The Chairman explained that time was short and the
Town was anxious to Let started on the sewer work.
He said the contract with Greenough Bros. had not
as yet been signed but his pipe was over there and
he wanted to get started as soon as possible. The
Board does not feel that they want to definitely
commit themselves on anything at the present time
but they do Want to start work; therefore, they
want to take this land by eminent domain but
they also want to have the opportunity to discuss
this further with Mr. Ryder from time to time.
They assured him that this was not a closed issue
as that was definitely not so. In order to proceed
with the work they would like to take it by eminent
domain and then look over the easements and the
entire land and discuss it further with Mr. Ryder.
Mr. Ryder accepted the decision of the Board.
He said he would continue with his plans as far as
possible and that- he would be willing to meet with
the Board at any time. The Chairman thanked Mr.
Ryder for his co-operation and Mr. Ryder retired
at 9:15 p.m.
Mr. Edwin B. Worthen met with the Board and Sketch
presented an architect's sketch showing the first Given to
Town Hall which was completed in 1847. This sketch Board of
has been given to Mr. Worthen through the courtesy First
of Miss Susan Muzzey and he was presenting it to Town Hall
the Town for the Selectmen's Room. Mr. Worthen
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Sewer
Extension
Tucker
Avenue
Loam on
Robbins
Road
said that he would write'an appropriate inscription
to be placed on the picture before it was framed. The
Chairman assured Mr. Worthen that the Board was pleased
to accept this sketch and that it would be framed and
hung in the Selectmen's Room.
Mr. DeFoe asked permission to have Mr. Russo
install about 150 feet of sewer on Tucker Avenue.
He explained that all the work in that section was
being completed and the residents.had requested that
this becdone. Inasmuch as Mr. Russo's equipment is
still in this section he will agree to do this strip
at the same estimated cost which would be an approx-
imate total of $920. Mr. DeFoe said he would like
to include this as an extra under Mr. Russo's
contract but Mr. Lynch said that he would advise it
on being done as a separate job. Mr. Lynch said that
it would not have to be advertised as the total cost
would be under $1,000. Mr. Driscoll asked Mr. DeFoe
if he had sufficient funds in his account to d6 this
work and he replied in the affirmative. He.said
that two of the lots were assessable and that there
were sufficient funds in the Sewer Construction
Sundry Streets account. Mr. Driscoll then moved
that the Supt. of Public Works be authorized to
have Mr. Russo install about 150 feet of sewer on
Tucker Avenue based on the unit price of his other
work at a total cost of approximately $950. Mr. Gay
seconded the motion, and it was so voted.
Mr. Gay said that Carl Samsel would like permission
for Mr. DeFoe to dump one load of loam on Robbins Road.
He is willing to do the work of grading and seeding
if the Town will furnish the loam. Mr. Paxton explained
that this was a custom that was practiced prior to the
war and he could see no objection.
A general discussion followed regarding Baskin's
Pine Knoll Road assessments and on the establishment
of a policy for betterment assessments to be used
in the future.
The Chairman said he thought we should set the
price now for water mains for 1949. The Clerk was
requested to advise the Sup't. of Public Works not
to quote any more prices on water main construction
uhtil'after he has submitted anc' average cost of
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construction to them based on the same formula
he used a year or two ago. The Chairman suggested
that the Clerk of the Board write to surrounding
towns to find out the practice being followed by
them on assessments for betterments streets, and
to present the information at the next meeting.
It was decided to withhold any decision on Baskin's
assessment'until the next meeting. The meeting adjourned
at 11:00 p.m.