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Project: Lexington High School Project No:
Subject: School Building Committee Meeting Meeting Date: 4/22/24
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J Michael Cronin* SBC Vice-Chair&LPS Facilities J Christina Dell DWMP
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Julie Hackett* Superintendent Steve Brown DWMP
Jim Malloy* (Town Manager Mike Cox DWMP
'Joe Pato* (Select Board Chair Rachel Rincon DWMP
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Mark Barrett* Public Facilities Manager Jason Boone DWMP
Charles Favazzo Jr* (PBC Co Chair Brad Dore DWMP
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J 'Jonathan Himmel* PBC Chair J 'Jacob Greco DWMP
J Andrew Baker* Interim Lexington High School Chris Schaffner Green
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Finance Assistant Town Manager J Lorraine Finnegan SMMA
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Hsin Min in Sha* Community Representative J Rosemary Park SMMA
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senaya Slaysky Community Representative J Matt Rice SMMA
J Lamb Capital Expenditures Committee J Brian Black SMMA
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Alan Levine Appropriation Committee Erin Prestileo SMMA
Dan Voss* (Sustainable Lexington Committee J Anthony Jimenez SMMA
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Maureen Kavanaugh (Director of Planning and Martine Dion SMMA
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
Meeting No. 10-4/22/2024
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Item Description Action
No.
9.1 Call to Order& Intro: 12:01 PM meeting was called to order by SBC Record
Chair K. Lenihan with 12 of 13 voting members in attendance.
9.2 Approval of March 18, 2024, March 25 2024,April 1 2024, and Record
April 8 2024 Meeting Minutes:
• A motion to approve the 3/18/24, 3/25/24, 4/1/24, &
4/8/24 meeting minutes made by K. Slaysky and
seconded by J. Malloy. Discussion: None. Roll Call Vote:
A. Baker-Yes, M. Cronin -Yes, C. Favazzo -Yes,J.
Hackett-Yes,J. Himmel -Yes, C. Lamb -Yes,J. Pato -
Yes, K. Slaysky-Yes, H. Sha -Yes, K. Lenihan -Yes, D.
Voss -Yes,J. Malloy-Yes 12-0-0.
9.3 Important Clarifications Record
• Central Office Included in all Preliminary Designs:
o L.Finnegan discussed that there are additional
alternatives that will be presented for the schemes.
The central office is included in every option
(excluding the base school as the MSBA wants one
just for the educational program). There are also
four variations of field houses and two for pools,
as it is known the MSBA will not provide any
reimbursement.
• J.Hackett asked the SBC whether they
understand that the central office will be
included in all alternatives evaluated
• K.Slaysky asked what the need or"drivers"
were for a new central office
• J.Hackett stated there was significant review
of the current district office including a
space study. The review was able to lower
the needed square space to 17,000sf from
the existing space of roughly 50,000sf.
Through the planning process they worked
with a master planning group and got
consensus on the concept and brought it to
the SBC.
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
Meeting No. 10-4/22/2024
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• J.Hackett noted that one of the main drivers
of this was a quid-pro-pro as the
recreational department can now gain more
field space. Also, as the district grows the
need for athletic space will as well as seen
in the pandemic.
• M.Cronin noted that this building goes back
to the Harington project. It was promised
that the district office building eventually
would be converted back to recreational
fields. There is a formal project outlined in
the capital planning pipeline that will be at
the next town meeting.
• K.Lenihan noted that the current school
committee must made this decision this
not the SBC.
• C.Favazzo asked whether the MSBA will
participate in reimbursement of the district
offices?
• M. Burton confirmed that the MSBA will not
participate in the reimbursement of an
admin building but is willing to have it in the
high school project
• A.Levine noted that the "promise" that it
would be turned into a field does not
matter as there is a proven need that more
fields to be required as documented by the
recreational department. As the high school
construction is underway it will be even
worse for several years. If central
administration was going to stay in their
current building it would still need
expensive renovations.
• M.Cronin noted that this is correct as the
building was evaluated by the capital
building department, it received an "F"
grade in 2020 and thinks it will be much
more effective to include this in the LHS
project. Renovations would be in the $16
million range. This includes only upgrades
of windows, mechanical systems, the roof,
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Project: Lexington High School
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etc., and would not be an upgrade to
physically anything in the building. The $16
million range was given back in 2020.
• H.M. Sha noted this discussion is important
and for the record to capture this as it has
only been discussed in other committees.
Due to the size and impact of this project,
all relevant facts and discussions should be
included in this committee's documentary
record.
• H.M. Sha noted that the SBC should use
caution when referencing previous and
other meeting channels as not everyone is
privy to this information
• Pros & Cons of Addition/Renovation:
o SMMA has heard a lot of discussion of utilizing
more of the existing buildings
o B.Black noted that they have created a summary of
the pros/cons of all the different construction
options
o L.Finnegan has noted that they have been working
hard to consider what the community has said.
SMMA is working on new options to reflect this.
• L.Finnegan noted that as they progress
towards SD and in PSR they will take the
aspects that are best from all the Massing
Study Alternatives and use them to create a
design.
o L.Finnegan noted that the PDP is about making
sure the program is captured and not the design.
Everything is still supposed to be very high level as
none of these designs are final.
o J.Pato asked if any of these new alternatives
consume the existing parking fields instead of the
current athletic fields as he has not seen anything
like that layout so far.
• B.Black noted that they will explore this, but
it will create challenges for the existing high
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
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schools traffic flow throughout the
construction process
o J.Malloy noted he has heard that the abutters
would prefer a building near Waltham Street
rather than towards the fields with a concern of
bright lights.
o J.Malloy noted that they have been receiving
various emails from residents saying that the
wetlands should just be moved to create designs
with less restrictions
• L.Finnegan stated that wetlands are an
extremely valuable resource for any site.
Simply filling and moving a wetland is not a
simple task. BVWs, or Boarding Vegetation
Wetlands (simply put are wetlands that
have drainage connections), must go
through MEPA(Massachusetts
Environmental Policy Act) and could easily
be denied by the state. There will be
designs that do not touch the wetlands as
there have been multiple triggers already
(Article 97 & MEPA). L.Finnegan also noted
that with BVWs the replication rate is 2:1 so
it will limit the space even more for the
project.
o C.Favazzio noted that some of these wetlands have
already been relocated from the prior baseball
field project
o K.Slaysky asked for the goal of the PDP (the PDP is
about making sure the program is captured and
not the design. Everything is still supposed to be
very high level as none of these designs are final)
to be added to the FAQ
9.4 Focus Group Update:
• Review the MEP systems &Sustainable Design Focus
Group Recommendations:
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
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o M.Rice noted there have been 13 focus group
meetings to date between the four groups. What
we will be going through today is the MEP
(Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing) &
sustainability design recommendations.
o M.Rice noted that the columns read (left to right),
the initial questions or suggestion, the
recommendation given to the SBC, and then either
a Green (Given), Yellow(Needs more discussion),
or Orange (Faces considerable challenges and
needs detailed discussions) color coding
o The following Focus Group Updates were
presented by M. Rice
o MEPS 2-4: These dealt with the life cycle of the
building. What the cost for maintenance and
replacement will be. The MSBA requires a 50-year
LCCA, but Lexington will have a 75-year LCCA
o MEPS 6: The project will consider emerging
technology but will not go too deep into it
o MEPS 22 &23: These discussed massing and how
space will be used in the school, what departments
are located where and what parts of the building
can be separated for after hour activities
o MEPS 26-32: These suggestions also dealt with
LCCA, it will be conducted during early during the
PCR phase and updated throughout the SD, DD, &
construction documents
o MEPS 50 & 51: The suggestion of gaining a net-
positive goal will be reviewed and a 10%target
goal will be set going forward. However, this will
pinch the square footage available as it will require
more additional space for.
• D.Voss noted that the net positive goal is
estimating the load of the building and not
necessarily the total project. It would be
good to estimate it with the expected load
for charging EV as well as it could be 50%
and notjust 10% due to future growth.
•
SM MA noted that they agree and can start
tracking this though but noted it is hard to
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Project: Lexington High School
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estimate 15 years down the liner as the grid
could be cleaner in general.
• K.Slaysky asked that a good chunk of time
be reserved in a future meeting to review
this topic and the electrical load in general.
There is a lot of discussion needed
regarding this and if we are planning for
net-zero/positive in today's climate or the
futures
o MEPS 54-59: These suggestions dealt with the
electrification of the bus fleet and charging
resources. This has been shifted over to the
orange category as there would be 82 total
vehicles (32 buses & 50 vans) needing to be
charged plus parking for all the drivers. This
amounts to roughly 1.9 acres of space. When this
is factored into all the other space needed for the
other additions (Field House & Pool)to the project
it faces a challenge. This is not suggestions that
these items should not happen in the future but
that it will be very difficult to include this on the
site of the school
• A.Jimenez also noted this would place
significant additions on the electrical
infrastructure and the goals of net-
zero/positive
• D.Voss noted that it could save money in
the long run and should be reviewed
further as retrofitting the system after will
be much more expensive
o MEPS 60-65: These suggestions need discussions
for where electrical bikes/storages would be
located and review with the Fire Department
would be needed due to associated fires.
o MEPS 78: The goal of having 24/7 HVAC and
humidity control is feasible for specific
locations/rooms but not the building as a whole.
Which locations and what requirements need to be
finalized but it will be given attention going
forward.
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o MEPS 80-82: The geothermal wells (how many,
how deep, where) are still being reviewed. There
are two (2)test wells scheduled which will provide
more information
• K.Slaysky asked when we will know if
geothermal will be feasible, so we do not
take the process too far.
• SMMA noted that these scheduled test wells
for June should provide all the information
required and the prior test bores on site
should suffice for passing the
environmental factors
• D.Voss asked if the heating/cooling load will
be finalized when we learn about the
geothermal production levels and to review
the life cycle as we do not want to have to
provide supplemental heating/cooling to
the system in 20 years.
• A.Oldeman noted that they will keep
this in consideration and provide
analysis reports but also noted it is
hard to predict that far in the future.
SM MA will have a much better idea
of loads in SD.
o MEPS 87: Selected spaces will be provided with
back up HVAC power, but more discussion is
required to decide where and what locations
o MEPS 91: The programming for the theater will
confirm the required power needs, it has been
requested to provide more than is normal.
• K.Slaysky asked if we are trying to design a
theater that has more electrical needs than
the traditional high school?
• M.Rice noted yes.
o MEPS 94 &95: A.Oldeman shared how it could be
beneficial to have the heating and cooling
produced in a centralized location to save
refrigerant instead of piping it to each unit. Heat
pumps have self-maintenance on cold days where
they will run in reverse to defrost the condenser
coil. This takes roughly 5 minutes and does not
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
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normally affect Fan Coil Units but will disrupt an Air
Handler Unit
• M.Cronin notes that with some of the
current heat pump systems Lexington has
installed will shut down when it is very cold
(-8 degrees as example).
• A.Olderman stated that the current systems
are rated to -13 degrees but to take this
with a grain of salt and discuss the
pros/cons when reviewing this system.
• A.Olderman noted that the preference is
ground source heat, but the air sourced
heat options are being reviewed as the
MSBA requires a review of at least three
separate mechanical systems.
• K.Slaysky noted that state financial
incentives have moved towards geothermal.
o MEPS 102-106: These suggestions compare energy
savings to the health of the building and note that
air quality and health should be prioritized. Air
quality sensors will be provided in the school
building, the ppm target goal has yet to be
decided. There were talks of 600ppm which is an
extremely low and safe number, there are studies
that show a number higher than this is plenty safe
and healthy.
• A.Levine said there should be a feedback
loop for the system to automatically turn
on/off based on the CO2 levels.
• A.Olderman noted that CO2 sensors are
often provided room to room to allow the
ventilation to vary based on the CO2 levels
in the room. The high end of the load must
be considered to confirm the system will be
able to provide enough load.
• J.Hackett shared that during the pandemic
levels of 1000ppm were noted as safe levels
• D.Voss asked if the 600ppm was shared
from the focus group of from a health
organization
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Project: Lexington High School
Meeting: School Building Committee
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• M.Rice stated it was from the focus
group
o MEPS 119-122: The sustainability study outcomes
are to be shared with the noted stakeholders in a
transparent manner to promote collaboration.
Proposed additional goals, beyond the givens.
• Exterior and Interior Design
o EID 5: Develop a study to compare expanding
vertical instead of horizontal
• J.Himmel asked if the estimating being done
is considering the vertical expansion and
the required foundations.
• L.Finnegan noted that the foundations that
cost estimation was conducted for are all
roughly the same due to the soil conditions
whether it is a 4 or future 5 story building.
• A.Levine asked if vertical expansion would
be more disruptive to the high school.
• B.Black noted that the goal of this
suggestion is to review all aspects of future
expansion such as this question and noted
that the building below the expansion does
not have to be vacated.
o EID 12-14: The suggestion to consider building
materials and the envelop regarding
environmental impact and embodied carbon
o EDI 15: This suggestion is for the design team to be
creative with where the footprint for PV can be
located
o EID 16: Include operational energy constraints in
overall decision-making and LCC analysis.
o EID 18: provided the notion of balancing the upper
classman's ability to leave the school during free
periods with security.
• This will ultimately be a School Committee
decision.
o EID 22-24: discusses breaking apart parking for the
specific department locations (i.e. athletic parking,
theater parking, etc.). SMMA will strive for this, but
it will come down to site constraints.
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o EID 33 &34: Requests to consult with the
community in regards for uses of the auditorium
beside just the basic educational needs. It also
discusses the need for an orchestra pit.
• K.Lenihan noted that currently they only
have a recessed location for the orchestra
and not a full hydraulic pit.
o EID 38: Provided the notion of placing separate
entrances for the arts and athletics as they both
could have concurrent activities with large groups
of the public
o EID: 42: suggestions creating food appropriate
spaces, but the additional requirements of
cleaning and waste reduction must be considered.
• J.Hackett noted that it will be a larger
undertaking but saw it completed
successfully in Virginia
o EID 45: All proposed flooring materials will be
reviewed by facilities and maintenance
• M.Cronin noted that linoleum tile is not the
issue, but the joining method has been
problematic in the past.
9.5 Refine the MEP Systems Design Requirements: Record
• Topics were covered in section 9.4, no further discussion.
9.6 Upcoming Meetings: Record
• 4/29/24 SBC Coordination Meeting
• 5/2/24 Community Meeting
• 5/6/24 SBC Coordination Meeting
• 5/8/24 Abutters Meeting
• 5/13/24 SBC Coordination Meeting
• 5/20/24 SBC Meeting No.1 1
• 5/28/24 SBC Coordination Meeting
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• J.Himmel asked for a review of the schedule at the 4/29
meeting as there are only 5 weeks left in the PDP section.
Himmel shared that we are at an interesting crossroads
as there are a lot of options on the table and the review
process could bring up new approaches that may require
more time or rework of the schedule.
9.7 Other Topics not Reasonably Anticipated 48 hours prior to Record
the meeting:
• Evaluation Criteria Matrix:
o J.Hackett shared that the evaluation criteria matrix
has been reviewed and edited multiple times so far
o M.Cronin noted that there was discussion of how
each item on the matrix does not have items
weighted as they are all equal.
o M.Burton noted that the lack of weight on the
matrix was discussed with a smaller working
group. Burton noted that the team is hopeful to
use this tool, and this is an exercise that will create
discussion. Nothing completed in the matrix will be
locked in.
o M.Burton noted that the 4/29 meeting will be very
robust as first estimated costs will be presented so
it will be beneficial to have this tool approved and
used.
o J.Himmel shared that the tool should be used and
approved as is but in the future, it may be
beneficial to weight the topics further down the
line
o A.Levine noted he was part of the working group
and how trying to assign weighted levels ahead of
time would be problematic and the total number
on the bottom would be removed to just show the
pros and cons via the colors.
o K.Slaysky said there are criteria that is required
and others that are just nice to have. Slaysky noted
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that balance between these may have to be a
criteria section within itself.
o H.M. Sha said he supports this, but it needs to be
clear that some problems cannot be solved via
quantitative methods.
9.8 Public Comment: Record
• P.Kelley(24 Forrest St.): Has noted that the ability to build
on the current fields should be an absolute no and does
not think the community would support this. Kelley stated
it is a fact that land cannot be replaced. Kelley stated that
what he is witnessing is not suitable for Lexington. In the
1990's Kelley was on an SBC and said they focused on the
42-foot Worthen Road & bus circulation loop. Kelley said
that as this progresses the team should not want to risk
the project health with a no vote if the community is
sensing that the project is not in line with their goals.
• M.Sandeen (10 Brent Rd.): Emphasis on learning the
heating and cooling load as early as possible should be
prioritized. Sandeen also noted that the 600ppm level for
air quality is called out in the IDP (Integrated Design
Policy) as preferred and is notjust a random comment
from the focus group and that the Lexington Board of
Health is in agreement with the 600ppm or less in
schools.
• D.Pursley(21 Turning Mill Rd.): Pursley wanted to second
the previous comments about understanding why some
options may be better than others. Pursley asked about
the canceled abutters meeting and the requirements to
define the abutters.
o C.Dell Angelo shared that this meeting was moved
back to May 8th
o M.Burton shared that the abutter level was
decided working with DPF, and they provided a
1000f radius along with some additional address
added due to local knowledge
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• B. Pressman (22 Locus Ave): The recreation committee
has recently provided a 22-page memo and asked if there
is a plan to engage with them based on what they
provided. Pressman also asked why there has not been a
recreation lesion from the start of the project.
o R. DeAngelis: Following up on the previous
comments/questions from the public and shared
that the recreation committee worked hard on the
report submitted to the SBC and would encourage
the SBC to engage with the recreation committee
9.9 ;Adjourn: 1:58PM a motion was made by J. Hackett and seconded Record
by M. Cornin to adjourn the meeting. Roll Call Vote: A. Baker -
Yes. M. Cronin -Yes, C. Favazzo -Yes,J. Himmel -Yes.J. Hackett
-yes,J. Pato -Yes, K. Slaysky-Yes. C. Lamb -Yes, H. Sha -Yes.
D. Voss -Yes. K. Lenihan -Yes,J. Malloy-Yes 12-0-0
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Jacob Greco
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The above is my summation of our meeting. If you have any additions and/or corrections, please
contact me for incorporation into these minutes.
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