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ADDITIONAL TOWN onlab WADING COMNXTTM
'December 4. 1954
A =acting of the Additional Town Office Building Cmaittee
was held in the Selectmen's Room. Taal Otftee BuiMingo on Tues-
day 6V*11.14*; DOOOrlbOV 4 1956 at 8t00 P.N. Chairman rook ,
Most's-. Johnoon* limiter, Maloney and Reed wore present* Mr*
areeley$ the architect, Mr. Ruston Oeurian$ his assistanto
Chief Ryeri,:dtt and the Secretary were also presont*
The Chairman presented a change order #2 showing a deduc-
tion of Sap from the c4mtract wi Ostitatina for thin
through wall flashing specified 3 ounce copper flashing with
asphalt 3,,turated fabric on both aides of the copper* An
posed Vivehing and. counter flashing to remsin as specified*
Vir.. Greeley 04d h thouts,ht the proposed chant;,e was botter
and Kr. Zrooks reported thft the Building Inspector had approvod
it*
'Open motion o W., Mmter$ soconeled Mr* Johnson, it wan
voteoa sign the shame ardav 2* dated November 70 1.956.
The discussion held WAS more or loss as follovms
areeley$ I wrote the abairailan that It might be a good idea
to et the equitftent and turnitmre. rolling* Ito said
we Could o ovor that .with yAl tonight* 11140. NtIrsaart
been war:Um; on this for some time* We dr) not
have a est a plans for each one here* Here aro
plats chewing; how the rwaltwo Is proposed tebe
located in the moms* We have taken tutt up with
the 'DepartmeAt heads thec.zselves 41118".i WO followed
'all7 in all Ot4ses their recootnendations tro:v
the amount and kinA of sent $ but we have done
the placinc, of it in the .new rooms* It is agreeable
to them as far a•k, the 1401141. are concerned*
liere IS list of the furniture with the list priecia
tiS of today. We save you a rough estinsts when you
were making up your budget tor your appropriation*
These are the list priSes end we taiderstand you will
get 15% off of list* it you care to run through
these while we are here we can discuss arab items
needing explanations* Here is a booklet With the
pictures a the items. This represents the equipment
that WaS not in the original builder's contract. but
tor which uad an Item in sour budget* TOm., had
the cost of the 'builang. ti&tpuree 'and equiptiont*
This is the equipment en of it
Chairman4 Isn't tbo vault in on carpentry and rough. fish?
OrcloyA T vaUlt has no carpentry* It la a maohvy vaUlt
with a steel door frae*
Tau mIght like 4o start o with the shooting gallery*
That iislaid out bore on a larger Scale* That la
from 4 manufacturers list of stock*
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Orseloy: The target it only 0 5" from the bask wall* WO
abowd 7* The rano is 8, 3" from tho bat* wall*
We thought it mus f but when vs °basked we round
It is 31) 8,
9 by 13t bask ot th line, you see*
It la better than we thought before* This way
ohms a sand box* a sheet motal or piywood box „Cille4
with sand that tatica tba bullet* If you shoot from
these two Stations there Is a Irelley t Adjnat tht
target* Tho target io on a 40'4' asdget with A Ot001
faqe* At the bottom is sand* The 'bullets are dep.
fleeted
in the sand* That is the layout for 75t
somo or the shootins is dc*,43e at 50' but Tou OP0U0
ot 45 and thiis laid out for 45, If yo-u shoot at
that 10 one buVfOr qn seaters* Ws f,ontt knc*
you want 4ho btoti.
Ryorott t what bolo the butter le there? Any plavo Vortb
man to lay dort,on his gun?
Greelelt WhateVer you 1004* UeLU4 they provide A Utterer*
Chairman* Youmnan A souotert
Ricrofti There is time fire amd rapid tire* Aoms of than
•
teal lay the sun down to root their arm* 'Usual:14f
With these there is a plsoe t lay down the sum*
Reed., There should be A oounter* flat en top*
Gr4?ieloyt 3. wiU tad:tante it here* There will be a ,.chelf
whatever hoiAht you say*
Ryeroft: The height of the table hare would be all right*
You say this sem be rolled baok and put out of the
way* oorreet?
Greeley* Yes*
Ryoroft1 xr that is so whore is the trolley goine, to be
.tesate4?
Greele7t At the 75 root* You may want a win ease or not.
nyeroftt X don't think that wo43,41 boo necessary*
Greoley* IlcmYmueh or the Shootine would be 14,:i And boil .404 75T
111"Gr" "ad- be laMbe ON*Ing* AllOn wtO Oat shoot as the
P onAtX VOA(1110000 Scc Y4 ri"*C*1. 75 0,014, W& 143Ll clo
shooting prone* I would nob want to 010o4 7 with
a step 0'4 hero* X woul4 rather bave tho4 get oVer
the step And that would be 61 * Another thing we
bad tnmind, tr WO aro allokred to do It b Town
Oeum.el* there tr A need in town tor bloh aabool
boys who like to Shoot 4 M rine.* Wo woulit 11,1s,o
to show than how to uoo a atles aml that womM lo0
done at 751* Diffezoont clubs 11.34e to shoot with the
polies and in those inatohnt it would be 11.5i 1414.-01
wenad be plenty of rout*. From. the woy this looks
hers I think it should work out vary won.
Greeley* in the, contrast we have an Allowance for this*
Ryerort4 f. 350.k
Own-1(174 That does not eome out of yo aUowan for furniture
And equipment* If that looks AIX right you ean 'keep
that sopy for your record an4 we will start off With
that*
ItUnter$ It would not be too muah or a pU to put char
there*
OroolaV No We have made a 4,,Ao a that*
nyorer44 Thlg part is schund proof* V we Dgeui4bt thia 4own
and 'broUght our target 44ek AnA went up throe. root
Hunter; Isn't it eater to, Uoop tbs. tarsOt @loser to the
arrio?
nyerortt I vi,,104.11 sot; 00/ go*
Chairlewd 3,00kkiltL Lig4:17tk,*,4 744, 440 fa* Intah.
RV:00W :04t411144AS 10 movable+ It is wonaor'ralf
areoley: You love to 1100 Oomatillot5 4a4inst the stanA so 4
bullet will sot go Up the stairs*
Johnsont The 75 thins looks 'tricky* l'ho 45 looks absolutely
3are* Xouaortivly noo4 tbs,lato.
Oreeleyt We will, 4how you tn. 4otail 4 iarw scale oT this for
tie Ch4oP to approve*
nyorati I thinkwe could tam a roll hero 40 wall as a wall*
()reeler; Zorore coin'. soy rurtbg14 W4 will show t rinal dratd:*
ine to
Obsirmant I woadUtw 4hnts rinal approval or it*
:for the ordinavy rea rugaituro# caeinotof etc+
would it bm. Wt-tor t put 0441 out tor bide Woulanitt
we boat thia 15M
(4'001041 4,tou1at Put thom out ror bids*
Chairman* Doing that and 4cAling with orrice furniture supply
people, votildnft ve take the vault deers out or thia
list?
Greeloy4 There ia Sinalo 00I110414 -1%1400, bkind104 all this
oquIpment* 4r this Y?osos to bo tbouit the right list
w* Oxide it Op the wlay tho trade wield bilve it dividod*
Reed: Lbw mu.WA Lowy AO me 14001
Ovocloyt It is about wlwre it was* The 11,t4 wo 144f4 runs
tbout 00*
04-kman1 it runs oqtr 06$00 berolm the la do4ustion*
Oreelsy* As far aa wo know thla ts within the appropriation
and leavos awe aver t041;1;10/
Oakman* IOnit there a possibillUy$ supposiin. you did not
Lava tau* extras at Vac en4f Wt woald !Do tho answer?
Oroelcyl We Unew-what the appropriation isi* ave to titzuro
som4thin4 fop etAtxtas4. We geand ans# a sort spot in
fAle excavation vet40 400:10d, lOorit6',61,
larydgiran Ow mat door Mat le wAllotiblogye 1,:oulxt
/atm) on 1>etomoo that shoo be Vu11140
Groeiti7 Wi34 'tont- is bwo-hoor floor• We tried toI ITO
out what the law le* Mere is no written record, at
the Supervisor or 'Public liecoras*
Hunter* Does the insurance company IAV any resulatlons?
0mo:wit N04, wo vatQV vuwant tue.bour protection4 You
want a nest door* We went to and out what w can
and to fill those con4itionol a neat twe*.hour door*
It you toll ut torlia,btbe w&. r1.43:ure on, the doors
that is all you, nee to do# We win ig6 ahead artd
got smile WAS* X undorstandk toohnicallyo Tot* have
to advertise ana s4t bids 411, extytithv ovez 4114,000*
44..*
t;rooltryt Praotioallys in Or or this tivo eau bo talc= on
as an extra which will attAVV the advOtisIng , Wo
sax* got a bid taxa taks toolou* biL AM, oar, our
torsaral oartrastor to absorb that 1,4 VINO genoral
oontraot at thsit priao,* That is t1 praottosA,
way to do it and 'Ws prastio* Occopt wboro tho
awount is„
$o biz; soidmitoo tal,e4t. *wino cOlOgt5.02.
n; wllof that Soi r,,,v. ho plOp041 ark order on,
the ialuie a the, low bi4400s aDos ho tItioto.
oz 4* a4ko porion 'who tumishoo 44,44 tagttal thom?
Greasy; Wo wou:14 hors titmvor would do it :or ths loast am*.toy*
Obairmant tbst UttittattOttirtV installs tItiort wk put tham 11..1 tho
gonoralit
Ciroolo $ avoid thtia 104110Z, 00VIV44, int; '413 ig'10 PAiVrok
790 jttOt tbxdtmP403.00100 PiOlt DIALIM
CAD ilbatA 1:4 111'4,70,e,S14 adV04444141%,
0- -Amin; What woOld b tho :ralarkisup1
Cirsolvt Ton
pt X itzgloo* Allootuniversally this is
am** but it rtn.t waist to act4ttsopS.ratoly ItJ1O "
t4 ablo an*
aharL,.era. It rat4 ' 0 dom. tho ',143 4tolsor flonst:i.ouatimt.
Oroollnrt it should bo. ''‘wr.to boiroro tho p10 , It alined 1)40
dono rum and if reto vraut to ActrOria,410 We Subgtit
sonstothing 1101/444 Stierir046 gin4 4WD:0ml*
Nalonoy; I oult th1.zk. you shOuld, kidvortiss thoSo, L1 4i * You
will sot Into ossotiOationa it: you do* lay it
will not lo!. r4Oporolive to tho towns probably
:loss oxpousivo*
Grooloyl isa,t thiask thsro %mad h zoballona* Vo013444111
it amid bstakon to oourt• I eicof kadtf 140 Ow
(mot would say booaus,, thoro novor, has boon any ,aoh,
so*
a'6.4son; What is o't4..otlioations 404414;1g it7
Hamm: Youllaym to ; * ot
ths ooutraotor 4 pwougtage of
ths work sou* t along tip an*• Ton poroont is n
oxponsivo t ,4200 *And fo,ip Z41104:oto43:7, -rides its X
think it is worth it*
Chairman; Moro it is boll% baat into tho straottito that would
bo 1010 way to do Ito
Oalmart; ls not beim 144U law Thoy, hays Way. ot 0044210
than whoro their. is a trolley 1444 fits in A 0)414404
Th .460 rktatlia* 00/46 rout put ths dow In*
AotaUr vou n pat U dow inoxiy tbao you 114ult*
dooliULdUrelAirgAVO
Chairman; What is:yOur adviooT
Orsolvt lo hoodle it 13,04 TI*410 Pv-Y bto 400 inorougO whilo wo
aro oottine.- roady to do It*
Hood; YO1,1 S9Svs stolipolont bore ataounting ta *4079 in Was
oxiattas bal4:444 How 0411 tailOy- witb tho al:4r
buildiner
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Girt Wio i ,4s ASsoesora aro out 1W this builanti#:
,tolloutyttee rftwo 11W. balm to :pay
gontottitng boo 1.11 rmodk The time Witt tb0 111042ttk#
418141Sers twal. Ihadtrig exAgloni4
Itoo41 Xouitite00 li,stoel on. the book tblit Vol 400 -fat gaing
to WOO WU otzutprtent Yolt /AIN 1740 0,10044A 004110' UM,-
WIth, it:ta thiums- they val nooa weir, 0110.04.
Oakmont '074-;:ntfo are tho dor*rtin ti$ vflai) wtU stari ltz but1414e*
r balm tt stetnarisell bt.tt t1.36:ro 00.1.1e4iLIW*
are(010111 Wo btry writ .41141patont, Inovo ol4 otiut*tent 'ATOM 11000
Ir,riempi tr4111 VW Tom md 'IWO k-,100 Ntif Zdt" th
mqvir* and the rest never tote been sottlea) vihetilevi
btry- cloythi,o, t toko the plaeo wtgat toke
roz,o#
Ohairwtot 1Pro SO Oet tbt vaat door settLe44 Is it
*pp:1)0101e to take 'Art ftoloyto take awl
adding lt 4tts oiltrst t V* o•o*treot?
4ohnoont Ttsoome t4,..tat this Is not Innob ttitter'ont than blortioe,
ootkplfe Vdesks'
Greeter 'Itdolts not etuovel -..otrty A,P,To,stimati.orlo
Oskraant all. finished* Xou 5ttet sot t'llmath awl bolt
them latC i. txaltml .t*RINIVO ,frora Moslor og $604 ,for
each door on tiloo tvo,*ihour '2%4)7 inettat the
4t6ortt am the get $1,50 per. ,flo‘vs: Tft4.11$ jib .1.5* lat4
3ikt $114 lievtas btu, tr,Ottai them), 7fou would be 411141,
ItOtten% Wt.
Greoloya Mat to th0 tLest thing to: rind out tentt it? W41,
Rmo ubat wa,ountst W tU oifole !bolt 14,itla the
txi* irropOsittou to TorAi,
Ali to tho otlIto, items' rt,4i. night Iffirit '1°0 ettos,,.r. 'taw
leptotronitt4 youraelvepi There IS the: plans the
oolledulo url<1, tier411 'bo :tow' Oitate00.1 Or OW.Ote lif1=1
rAt 701,1 tto oar* VIVO 1,4 40
,tortorgotom* Z. rott iiva 004,041.3. 0).1. 1:44044
bleo Xlifetti4. riot' loave beestwo ot delays
In OtaPtittnt tcprt,tte* Aonit WA/1k amt 1.0 going
down*
Pbsirtualr YOU NtIr0 to.,1,1t44 .0,1;7'00 turntturo‘
Jaitectal ti104- bis on:41410o troya to,r,!4.
utiatz9 tbo sOrri4or apse.e ror thti tlook roma
GG r &mit rota, ow !Imo ro4Tra 1fl Ø1 vito zto1 •0
bore A $1111:ei tol,r4Ittx,r, ord. 4rMp fthtiVeg* epaoe
nosestory tO got erciOnd those tixturtes* V* dark
rottet -eti 64"#.
Jr wit-41C14 tIvo otTr1,4m*
04:y1 That 1,13 Ott afgiro tIvo tittrk room* 'rho dark room is
4.*011,0,01, fr tfl 'you two gOtp.fr, to usoo
Itoolt* X dontt ib tritii: Any or use v1,1:1 b Itying who* i4,,w7;tiutla,
snothor st4biont omit ts'bet tho frogeth Or the
tem, is vine to b t t)lis eloportoont orows se it
shotied, s.404 arta* is ou the - ;U41)7°44004 so it Wks been
rortho asst 1'Ivo Viarto val it poSsibla to got two min
in thore t ocolic or not? Th. Stse Of th0 4ork ro*,'' is
ell right WW1, IA* 1440 tan it be twenty years trOut, nor?
Greeley; Titomon could not work er in the dark rOOM at the same
t . Zou will need two sinks and two everything.
tie had ,o idea two men would be working theIt
they .
r. do, this is no good. We supposed one men would
bo working there
T 'ere ' S t If youhad a crime and was tl to bat it out as
fast as you could you dei not have the 'tom et room
you want
Greeley: neloai a . would be done io the fingerprint room. now
is, the t`: ; a We can put this .tis over hare
and enlarge the dark room. It IS Aunty largo_ tor
one mai but AO spm for 04 than man.
Johnse ; Xt you enlarge, the space will have to be taken fr0111
t fingerprint nt 'o or this toilet*
e loot No the moron's room.
Aunt r; What do you have in the dark roomy"
riyoroftt We have a pester and en.,,ea;7, ,s 'p. z.
' xtie t Jt =Oh. extra aaue would thatgive?
Greeley: Then . dark room wo d be eight feet long.
Zee t 'fou. would have * matron wouldn't rout
Drees ley: Mr. Oso telt this dark room should be ended.
X discouraged ed ham.
Upon motion et Mr. Hunter, seconded by Mr. Reed, It
was un imously vxoted to enlarge. the dark room.
Greeley; Forty chairs for the assembly room?
trot .s We could uee mo chairs because we hopeto have the
Auxiliary Police take more teres; e'met memo often.
I think we should haveat least SOYOnty tiVC chairs
it the budget will stand it.
Greeley; There is rose: tor seventy rive. We will try. tem
se rr ►utpo rive and cut down it we have to, It is agreed
to have tour chairs in the Insstore # conference rte.
This will all have to checked d not approved oved , •"is.
You could ask us to oheo2 with the. depart3..w uta but
that still leaver it in our . 4 a I think s* .3 one
ant Committee would want to a some chocking. We
wil'l, do it it you, want us to. but would tool better is'
you. o a d*
' nttout When they got in they will find they went another
ohair or a thi,w
',sodt Let its through
as it is.
Greeley: We will Check ; ourselves and draw up specifications
and fiafinalt the fti *.- to youtorapproval and then
it will go cut for bids in as parcels ars we and
Town Counsel decide it will have ;o,
Ater: Do we hay:. auth i t, tospend moneyon this building?
Heol: There is an item m. under T Jerk but he is going to
stay in this building.
Greeley; When the 0 4 ttse asked us to check.. originally e
went through everydei gid: zit in this bulding and.
found out What overrule had and what everyone wanted.
I made the list which included not only *what we had
to get now for the other building, but also what
those who remain hero wanted. That is what the
til,O79 is and it can't go in. this.. We but it all
together tor your inspection.
Cirirmtuat Why idonft w follow up with ,hut what we mod for
furni.shing tho new building.
Greeley* It Waa a soca idea # the entire picture*
Hoed** We have to fide in the Superintendent's budget
what *hero are to be made In this build . We
tU have to have es ►t and it y i lude
some of this in your list.
Greeley* We have that all worked up end dstam on plans so it
ht t
useful to you# I .is all dry out. I
will turn the drawings over to Nr# Read.
Chairman$ Now we are only goingto be concern ed with. what we
need the new b xi. g#
Greeley* That is right. It does not include moving what is
in this build to the new building
rot* The question on PeridIV the cons. We are going to
move six and, the two women's cella were to stay, is
that crest?
Greet ley: 'Am new cons for he women.
1'10r : whenaid they be moved?
Greeley: Vie will. out
,trot$ It looked like a 4ob gotting thea doand getting
. . :.: out. SC000110 asked me wether or not X had to
wait until the last minute to aim them to rump
theme. I said. X thought : ao 4 wake arrangements
with Arlington to take e W• prisoners had and
ash 'the State Police no,!' to brine anycno to dui*
ing that period.
Greeley* We will report to 'you what the contractor luxe to do
and hcei quick eow do It.
Heed* The difference in steel prico# The only way we can
o mate the contractor is thresh p m noe•
;hewn: I ted to him since and if' by chance we had set
a date when the balder t be completed end finished ahead or time he could be o pensated. Ile
does not think it would be A goo idea now to set it
torthat ose. Ere sold the only war to :handle it
was tomake # partial adjustment h on some change
that might take place,
Greeley: I would, not like that. This is taxpayers" money* The
fellow is stuck but I don't know how you can get
around it.
Hunter: Can you acittup as an extra or a change order?
Greeley, It /a aceording to tl contract now. Lie just get
Stuck,.
Hunter: : , thought h tamed the hi6her priced steel IA orderto
expedite te job.
Greeley: It is the same steel. felt it would to to his ad,.
vantage be more for the steel, Ma re , en
partially solfish# It is not on our c.onscionce.
Chair: Committee would to do something ira wad` oan
be found.
As),
*a*
Greeley* We viii keep our eyes von and it you know*
Chairman* HO suggested i1 from the tive 4ement but that was
nett in tbo biciloben be took the lob*
Mal ) Tho night be 'stationed this to US be bad. not ordered
the stool and wanted to knew boy we felt about it be.
tore be ordered* Ile said all bo oeuld do was wait be.*
oause bo .A4 a contract for tbe Atool at the lower
price.* Oe said be could bq it tor Q900 'mere and finiab
the building 000nor or-uait to the stool and take a
Chance aa finishing the building* We saillho should go
petta and orukr tba steel anglUe would try and bolp
32/ 74
Reeds We tou h to go-ahead and buy it.
Greeley* 41tIo WAY be something Um up*
0ohnsons Can you put that a obango Order?
Nalmql X dealt think it should be bidden 'arbors*
Reed.* la order to expedite tho 'building tho Committee urged
him to buy the steel,
Johnson* I the that i a legitimate extra cost*
11aloney-t rim you anyon tires the, hot water system?
i elqball reportordidn't he?
14aloneys *
Greeley* I donst romeMber but have made 4 note of it and will
let the Committee 2m
There vall'be another mooting when we have thio buSineSs
ready to submit to you.
The mooting adjourned at 9$25 P*M,
A true record* Attest*
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