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ADDITIONAL TOW cveI03 BUILDING COMMITT1,U
June, 191 144:6
Alneeting cif tho Additional Town Office Building Ce.mmittoo
was bola In ti o Vzigineersi 400444 Town GVfloe Buildin&i, on Tus
day, Juno 19,0 19;56 at 87000 Pon, Chairman BreroX0,), Messrs. Reedo
4"ohneon and Luntor wovo present. The Seeretary was
also pre4ent*
1,1r. Pishor) rooreoentint.-r, 11 • Greeley, attended the mooting
and the asoussion relatiVe 141) ti 1,1M1 planand spooltleations
was more c+r loss as follIwo;
Obairviant calleei this meeting besausc if the meobers of the
Oen:tit:too bad tuay thotau,,hts they soula give them to
Nr• -Fisherifl time t get an &Monello into the bids*
Oxi Itata trAta cella They woro orlitted in the spool-
fiostions but sovomd imtbk plans*
Asher* They shula be oantioned in hth Ara wa will sona out
t nptiso tomorrow0
Ohairman4 Wo agreed f..; have tw hi on using; the
old eons.*
21shors Ve knew pu had a fselinG f!),r the peasibility or moving
the existing soils Peow bore to the new building and
erecting
t1 there. WO Wont furthor Into that than
perhaps wo at.lore reported to Irou, Wo had an Iron man
am 0 out and he f$ave bimvt 325OO to remove
tho six oolls;„ put 'aim in the new building and re-
oroot thew* Tben w ept 4 AK.4UrIa firmo who rakes and
soils eellso, i give us a quotation* Vor tbo six loOnts
ooile and the two wavient sells it waS $15,200 Width is
relative to the $170000 ;Nu have* lir* Greely's reel-
ing, in tainniz to the pe )plep was just meve them period
and rot put in the altornate* When there is suoh a
disparity between tho figuresA why put in the alternate?
Johns,44 We would 7v,ve to buy WO n147 one for tIle wciaon*
Fisher* Tes• You have st6 mails Otille that can be larT)V0(1, I r
21,500•
Chiant What yoz arc) a tOsIng it whether xr, not we i' " øt. about
alternate or now etre Por the 1:A040 W will WO) or4nite
prico,;, uri, moving these anii furnishing 1,316 nem wt„mient
Cella 0
Vishert Tbo Woonts cells will cost $4200.
Chuirmant That will iru 700 ;t14'w cellAinet t *17,0n0 we have
in the Tiginal estivate*
It mo unanimously arTesa use the Aonis old sells
ana got tlim now wmonts sena.
‘41short It vas brougbt lut that althf,)urh the plans give 4/1
tndioation or what we want to do) it Imo rot pickeil up
in the apeeifloatIons axastly wo winlIa, handle t
cells* We suggest adding an aidmdum ,,. three paraerapbm
If what wo want as ei:.sousse40 I will read it to you.
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8140na1T) ADDIADUK
Town Office Builaing
Lic.zinst,41
LIMIT VOW.
Add, as par* 17..18:
The light ir, contractor stia3A, relove thA,3 ( )
002410 fro,o, the present is °Moe basement arca* and instala
owapleto in the new balling where shotat,
Under .;:lection 270* tho PluMbing Contractor remewes the exist..
w.e.s and re-Installs on in tho new 1 )cation.
It will be assumed that any lizht Iron contractor anbmittino
a bid has visited those cells to study and boeoms conversant
with the problems involved* and lash or this Infemation can-
not at a later it be a cause Pl. any eNtra charge*
Also furnish and, Install two now; cells* complete* in the
woments area eif the new bullding;* which in material:1# deolgA
and details ax to foliew in all respects the mants cells
mentioned above*
Chairman: Bill did you examine the heating plans?
Maloney: ,Itos* It w What Wo taned about* Wo asitod tor therm-
static controla but wv were going to have three smos
and then they talkel no into two zonos. Those wore
standard specifications and, not just for this buildine*
Chairman: More wo have tbo second iloor entirely on a tw3 zone
with a thermostat* Mr* it,loball WW1 win& to have dampers
At each convector end in addition he has a separate
controlledthermostatic valve in eah radiator*
Maloney* Ho coy:I/An t tHAto
Obairman; c,oslot understand, why he nate the &Mango*
jiunter: Whvi are tho valves ,r1). each ragilaV4'. meeSsary ,yox,1
have two z.1:43,osT
calsirracm: That is my thinking* Wcralc.1 ;ii.o.0 talk to .11,1044111 lb?*
Asher and could we got an. pLionaturtnt nallorAate
rwleo or rind out what; :it would be if Wee were
ellninated and, we had dampers* or is it too late?
Fisher: No0 We Cam dq that. E-vory conVoctor radlatnr not
autoumticalay contIrlled by a thermostat shall have
a datver. Yew roquest would bp to eliminate the
thermostats throughout*
Chairman: Could 1,v,, as for an alternate quotatlim for omittino
the separate radiator controls he shown and valve
davers In the envectoral
Fisher* Still sticking to the two some
Chairman: octinitcl-y* It would only choose the Individual rem
controls* We would have a regular valve with a radiator*
Maloney: This heating type system is school systen*
chairman* Mr* 4ImhalI was the ono who recommended the damper
control and said it would be exponsive to go to separate
vitro).*
W could readily ept a tigure showine the realiatioa•
Rood: oantt soo ny nool r autonatio oontrols•
C ha it a „nM They are on tha ► plan and the but buSt way would be t gat
;figure
!r'i she r1 It t ,;. give us tt choices price.mise.
Chairman: One" tin ?lid, nat. catch a the specifications* Who
,xteasels oold wster t,,:t the bUilding and extew4s the sower
r.;aft to the street?
'o.3:ansont Doesn't the town bring t to t" building* tai dam as
In a private 10 a t j
f,re'(bfi"': !.h9 c:3 entrt'ato to i <;1 hA, sf:"h;.w 111 .�,'hC.�'fi,t , .t right out to the
street*
a .'L th"rt All i tae excavation ati n xel sower *a water connection. Is to
be dans by the goneral contractor. It appears t aaat the
pluobing or the supply for the water is not brou8ht in
;tram t o street by tho pi in { contractor* lie starts
:. t oke .th buildin6. With the xei 'atio'n done by t ao
neral eontraotor it appears th. t the town `Dula supply
the pipe and lay the pipe
Chairman: I think thatshould bec've e,1 sa,rmwhert la thh arc .
fic t On b lie either elAy' t2.0 torn %iR fzrrl it ;gip 0,:afte one
-;.'- „s ac r s 'Yes* It Is not covered*
tea ion y i I think It -was d,cflatelydesi4 we 'uvula have a tank:loss
type hot wittez /attached t { the boiler. Here it is a
entirely, separate
a x arat� unit ire y1 b . „1 burner*
*
It ' *raw' gallon tank d t , o heat ins its the
heater '6 He by iN thought wt
ec .# :otdea .i �. run. that big b�",:�'.lor fo:,,, a small amount off water.
4Tg,C�hhrat '�here teas •.�f 10 EE j4• ,o f on ;k"4sec3 't 'f 14 ti 3 it MS dig allOaed �
,�i"at-La`; n'k14 I a0 7ecLLrib i..L r� 4 b would be 1v'it3ab <1 to , ,�'�1;�2, : ;0 P Fo g
'It that way anO, he said b faro the sumOr and winter controls
in the, big, -nor* w he has It separtAted.
f, :2°o ,'"n art, only a, fewno:kth.o of the year when itwould b
«
op aat .n x. You would :'? intt' .i„ e
a � ,fii 'x temperature Spring
j
And '' ai . At all tI
jebn.„,xu It woad t aloe daLlp ie.se out of the cellar.
Hunter I arca sure we talked 0,bout the tanUess heater.
Nsione `i g,et Into a derinit typo wator heater*
ter
sa c .: These woe chances that have taLen place of which we have
no 1.- owlekd e r We discussed thinga with `b imbaU and now
"c' t the plans an they Ore .not so we discussed them.
Flahor I e= see that point a z t: :n 3 ; *
Jol w . : 'Mere nay be wale reasoni, but it seems 13,,,lw we should knew It
t holtva n a He in the engineero but I think we i n ,::t know why the
changes have be .'�. ek10 4
noodt it was 1310 suagestion that we have it that way in the firs
place
tbaira " : Right* way have also vered so ot h .n4K, b
hAtwarrants a
isho 'e Hu should:,d . Ve ``':s a z a.00n o th a' ;t� ". a gA e with
x
that* . r:� ; variation, should he rep te0 to you.
Maloney: The separate Installatint would be a t o costly.
"""jahorl have :F"''.;sims that with tho low rol,c;c:1nR4,int ,hot wster
over e ; ;M a:rc this would 'woe, better* b t I still agree you
Should lC be it'E, ,`o; md*
J4
chairmaa# has made no provision t use the bis boner* There
is no cut-over* it Is a separate mit just to servo
4,4 water requirements ail your long*
Maloney; This iS a very small unit i*r a, capacity of 34 gallons*
nahorit3 have maAo a note of that* If tho reason is ono of
engineering that developel* lot us inform you by it ;
othezulso we will revert*
Ytavo, agreed, to delete the towor from the. contract if
71,ra 00 ir:OATICA' u to The 410 thte'Va. pootriblition4
eoula lltove the castirgy., 3.4411t to h0 !WV location* Wo
f
ecm1,-,1 disea.rd the 17trosont raSt and TIMM a_ relatively
similar* but up.... % te Last* and 'put the new 414St Ln
or we could. df.,) what we have sw,,/--sested tn t plans* build
a structural twor as shown* On :moving the premot mast*
Tho pre4,ent cleat) is '82,t !rho present laws relative
mats are pretty well livated t SO Most of tto
oasts designed arc 4.0f * They have fl,sun4 tvouble wimlwiss*
A DIstat if 44. were used) rf,,quiros. throe guy wires st tive
pointvithin the hei.f.0111 of the V.4101,1 -whiab. Is an awkvard
thing; to arrange ana moszas c 'nerste piers al ave-urid, lath
.•
thew; ra, wtroo emain8 out., Wo telt it would be novo
bnoxiqua,* A neur Bast toad 'Pal about lint tthert of the
height of the tower we have recommended bore. The matter
f trannattin& andreceivillg) particularly in -Aloblls
un!Lts*
i qutts aspendent in height in the tower. Ib.
L.a the biggent raoter in good roseption* We fool the
higher tower is preferable* We are limited in the mast
type to 501 * if us shoal. PEMO the existing tower we
w-uld be without radio fw 4 tomerary period or a Oey oP
two. That Is not ton vital* but a problem to be tist*
The c.onaitIon of the s..ziatiny,; Dtast is difficult to tell
until we tW.,,:o it elxt of the „E:round, Our engineer felt
he c:Aild not rocomienti using the existing mast,* lie
would hesitato, The clist .11` the Auatat we specified i
between liaroo and $1200 above -6rotwa* Its shape follows
the shape ef 1.-ae,lar towers itithio h the blie has accepted
part cf the lanascape those days,* 14ith its support
not boinz ti to the building it tii60;Wd a eleanor
instal:1.04%1 than one with fifteen guy wires at a height
of only ,,5010 The color .-4`1 the tower eau be eontralea*
we would haw a 144)1 on t Iv* but the t mar could be
painted white as far as the vormtent •
scot this just so you 0(01ma,1,,:e choieas
Chiman; Pop the prosent it Is ec..motbIng that is s„ sub...1ton
iontt it?
Fisher; 'Yes*
Claimant
Po the present I think it 'you'll be beat to leave it
out The Chief has tar e with 0 .yineone about It,
is tr.:nothing vo (.'An ploir up later wo would 11143 t Levo
It out at this time*
Pisho.rt It could be pit04a up at any tiAOe
Rood: This is another variation* We did not discuss this
typ4 *2 tower at all* I called couplo o; steel
wuvanies and was told. there w* no liWit to tho
height* Nothing says this pole Is not in eood condi**
tion*
It was Alma/noway aGreed to ioit o the tower and
tomdation tor the present.
Claimant The other thinz tlAt blthare)d 440 MU the nurbor
low-orsXthme,ht we tad fla ,..-tives- As I counted
thlse shown I ao1, thirt:p.six. and clim.it ace whore vlo
on put any 1.alre* The present nuiptex- di 1 not bother
tae mob. but I, acAlf 41011 where we ok'snla
the .7,441vir
?labor: W have speci:Cied that tho 1. 0Ler$ b rompved
and sot up in the now location and. fivo new added to
theo to mal/e tho tc)tal shown on the drawintd,;*
Chairman: We hove said
we were prqviding flr 4 poliee. go:oe or' o
or 5S. I am spoalLine ab-id the space for the 1. )c:
.4"Ishc-0 If We at thatl, bao Jo boa- and ad4 a, olualto'r,3w It would
give us 14* It- is tioht bnt cauld zet 15 in there-
in the future* Those are very largo loekors* Mitht it
be feasible tw put a smallernew leoLor in'throughout
mad allow for aefinitely more space with a smaller lockert
Valoney: If we use tho aamo on lac new have and aro croweled* at
inter iate we a ull mako a change.
Runter: if we rop1400 the pwesent loccro OW14 time we coult1 get
smaller 1.)-a S an4 aet mnro or thetn..„
Clairwk,n1 Ilithout that st-lrage roo4 we cold wit 4 more in. Let
it aS it is. Ile can always get *mailer I -chexs*
Those are the only thinsI potted. Etas Kiriball oloared
the plutnb.ing layout with Inspect-( r?
she r I can't sa70 but If .he hasnit he will be oat hero tomorrow
mornine* We -haw pielL0,1 up -svao itcras that need
clarificationand will include thaw An an. addendum.
Tomrrow wo could put out an addendum on the iterf,lo
aro sure (f W1 1:034 in abe'yance the one 1r two ito' we
cyaldlike t cet ibnll vi.c.-nrpi,,int on lot .7ca no
his reeling .on.. that toli then act in tteOlvan)100 with your
wishes. Thoz)o In exvIe im3.
Nalmy.: What aro the requirements fop vetilatina? Aro w
gairol to ventilate tho ontio buildint0
In thin area tItip ,w1,r -ovireatonts by tho- Dont
; f uhliSarotyit von-tainting ato o3bf211)147 -.)?°c:nril and ter
sumpat ventilatinc tho toilet coemp. iz '4-ocintrea.
because they' Ar0 rAltslio toilets with the T4, coptIrT), of the
natr,Jals.
01,-01.301 ' ireo„ at 9 415 IL nd the g3actin( adjourned*
true roc er,1# Attest*
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