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ia,DITIoNAL VW11. OYFICiri BUILDING GoNNITTLE
April 17. 1956
A mooting o the Additional Town °riles Build:by; Committee
was hold in the UnIginoerst Itoom,. Tom Cf.tioe BUildine4 on Nes-
day, April 170 196 at 800 P Chairman .Breo1ts0 Xos ars Resat
liuntor and aohnson wero present* lir* 1411118A Ilecor
Greeley and Mr. 0a,lamonf /rim lir* Grooleyta orrice, Chier John W.
n,yoroft ana the ','',e0.,lootaley wore raw) pent.
Tho discusSion hold was about ,as rt:illow$t
Chatmam: Mt,7 anx,:.,ous to know -When we eex biting fads i ) the
point whevev0 oan send It out ror bids. It would be
Lolpful it you, would outline the stops on here on
which • haVe to Wo..
aroo,,eytw tirst step would h to appoint US as youx
arehiteSt*
Obairoant Tho contract
Greeley*: The vote says' two things, one of willoh Is you must;
00.otappottlit Utii*
ChairMarli We will conform 't;o, th1 d laeroby elppoint you.
Greeley: flow you have eenforma. to no vote,*
The Stops we about like this. We have a specifica
tion laelting thO sectl.M1 on, his4,ting and the sootion
on o1oot',,vioal Vforli:.# We have not startod ew. engineers
en the awaiting the time when the money would he
i,ranted We plaws 14144:ax we on look at whiail
are fairly well along.
Chalmant I alloy similar to the last sot?
Grsoloy: Beyond that, but more omplete. Jootion details, etc
Rood/ The only sontroversial item the vault in the middle
or the hallway*
01,-cieloy That Setszied to us not to be too good.• you, Iowa out
this way?
Rood; Can it bo put down in the baso:axent?
Cot ty: Tho S000nd floor Vault, as it would have to be, ia
directly over* Oom staixIt sonuocts di•rectly to the
oEftee, Tho Vast that tbia eoaxrider ends the is
nob •illcor4Vot when it is built. I think it is all
right*
Clblet The- last plan3 gall in the hallway' we .1.1:W two rooms*
I never did seo. this. 1 donft want It tthCLP4-1 at all..
Maloney:. Whore do you think It Should bo?
ohlort plade In the eellar.
Greeley: la tAlxer wovels, you do, not needa ra'u3t*
ahle,c t It is not scv,othinp'. we would be US:Um every O .
Groeloy't If' you aro mum') yoortl aload therc is not going to
be the need or a vault. oat it .w11.1 ooze at no takkublki,
o„t all. No Ipoblelzt of.' any !dna it 701A• are ail con-
vi that that the whole floor son 4o 'without any vault.
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Chain* What art the needs for a vult In a police station?
NalOneyt
Yu have a vault downstairs* I it necessary?
Chief* WO keep suns and things in i . I would like a 'Malt
in the building but not to that location* I would
rather have that extra room which will be used more
than a vault over will,*
114ionoil This extra room. will b connected to the juvenile
roomwhichwill be a prettT good sized rectrao
()malty: That may not be excessive In the future* but will b
more than you. need at the matin *
Ohieft It can always be partitioned off*
OresIoy: ir there is soma kind of record that you, wanted to
keep firs.proofed you can todyet a movable vault
Whi.ch vs did not us. 1 have Which the Supervisor of .
Records at the tato &use will, pass* It la not solid
metal and not burgalar proof* but is fireproof* That
could go in anywhere as a piece of furniture* Shall
wo say that is out?
Naltney1 W will say at the it the vault lo out of the first
floor*
Ohairmant Do you have any records that '4,hou13 be kept in a vault?
Chief; All our records are kept in an active file uha kept in
cabinets* Vitver prints Imuld not be loot because the
3tato Police and the F*1341z, hove a e4q* .
aced; Are you trying to get rid of the vault because you
donst think: you need it?
Chitft I don't need it there au . I don't want to lose that room*
Greeley: If we had the :. .torge instead of a vault* You can call
lb storage* It is the same thins whether you call it
vaull; or storage* I think on this floor you will find
It handy to have that tor storage* It is placed to con.
coal this doorway* , Those are the things to consider*
My judgment would be to call it storage instead of vault* ,
Ohairwant Is there any structural need for having this bore?
Greeley: If you omit the vault you c4: 1 have a column hero and a
column here or bort to sup'port It above*
Chairman: W4 can arrange this so this does not have to aunlort
a vault above?
Greeley: The quostion is, is that Storage space paying for itaelf?
MalonsA
That do you store in the vault/ ,
$hisft Wo have a lot of our records in the vault* As tar as I
W1 concerned 11 it is downstairs-.
Baloney* Wo haVe a storage roi.-4744 juvento
Greeley: Any way you look at It you have not wre storage space
than you: need*
Chairman* Mr* Proeley understands we want this hers to screen the
entrance bort camin up from below* ,
Greeley: You said the more privaay we could keep thisand this
does it,
Chief: If I brought someone up here there is no reason why I
canSt put a door in there so you could not see anyone
walking in there * !
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Gley$ Why can't yeu take eaVO or it this way and get youx
atoro slo(AilT
Obiort 1 uoull rather have roma and have tho sto dews.
tair$ unless it will alter tho. 10026.0 or tolo first ri0v.
OPesloy4 The only qp4atian t wbothor you want tbo storage or Mt*
We eau •:.1,43lata it or
' 04U Do 10 nO0d anytbLng ta 110,0a to oovowl this $4Naa
earner badO
Huntor$ Zk4'in Said wi eould by one,way window hero*
Chairatant Do you Still want to Lr,r,o baek to a partition here?
lor$ I Want the partition ba1; in
Grim:10T*
we will kait tho 'Mat , add to the juvenile ream fold
put a partition bon the office and assistants.
Minter: Do you want 4titly 3,loro doom :471 th0 juvenile room?
Vou have one now*
Ohiot; that i LL ht
mourityl )rox alenaa have door on the other end even IX you kept
4 looks d
ChieV; I wa talRing just but the juvenSla r0014*
ittohnomt Ad,A to it?
Ohio,* I hove4 it would bo ty,r) rqm14*
araort You eau have two .rooms If 'if eu want*
Chiof$ If you have throo some it ut °nee you ean separate them.
Rant er$ liak,e this a separate room anti move the partition
01011120n; .VAA, would then want a deer betwocm the two rocws*
Omoloy; That will opal youv privacy* You ean her The extra
door cots, 4a2,5, zou klonit need the door between*
aaot You vim aray aet aLor s without it
Gro0-01; i WS 0,4)1,01XVIng bhe Stops. Thin i the right step, to
mahe sure what you mut* No Would lQc4i them over with
you toniebt and corm book in a few clays with all the
corrections hoping that they would 1.0 rleyht and hoPinG
tlVin to haw the speafie4,tions on hea'tina auf4 elootrical*
Xe wol;ad then go over them with the eomattoe, on the
r:lateriala to b used In the Interioro 4,loors4aiLz
Pailitt etc,* DALITA8 sure the tipecifications fpio understood
W you, and then we are rt,tady to advertlso whtoh will take
throe wee ks to got bido, They' 114e to haw a notth, but
aaatt nal It* Thee lo plenty,
CWooley$ As to the date when 1m could &40 over tammomith you and
oalrirs ona materials and aotton boating *lad electric
opeoL,les,tionst ; we sould not may just what date. It
will be as seen as we can make it We depend en engineers
An ow orties tor the heating art4 electrios D* Iixnbll
Co':* know aoro about the beating system, bore* We like thelq*
lialoney: tile dont t the
OrealOy$ it Is new personnol sinzo they were bore, They did what
they were instrUvtod to Oo at the time, We have many
controls today labial we did not have then*
Hunters. We will baVe zoned sol ?
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lislovort Woad they give amr t to hot Wator heatnt37
OrOoloyt na*
Maloneyt It is mre uaslly oontr011od* ,
Oresior With your pion ve will have Mr* k;111Za11 bore
nott mooting to talL. those thIngs over with
WO woull; rather have you .s...n. on. it than just t toll
us to (y) ahead*
1,101,,,A301.$ We would like t 0 talk, to hir
Ley: We uill 'bring him out an4 11P W111 expect yott to got; c
(pm tionS 0 etc,*
Iluntort Vluld vo :like to talk to tho elootrie engineer?
areoley* ho saws rim, is doin.4, both*
Malawi: X tAkink tho oleet.ris rt would be sem thing wo could
tilsousa;st outlets fi to*.
Gro-eleyt. 0,4ier v-ou could, aive us, a lotter ,Fsivi ng all tio ,.
equipment you went to
(hit*
1.14oneyt -as 'you don't t have enough money youshoulf`,1 at loaat
hat-1re tbo .ducts in there*
C.Y.Uer$ WO would have to have tattho eell blo0X0
Bofors
we get Into that* Qa the .swinkier. syatami .
will tho pips be like tiwoet-
114:1:41.e0 All oomoalod* Zero my bo som VDVO things*
Oliefl YOu havo to havo intorcom in the eolls* Where thm
11%m. NM a01,3ing In th0 roar we should have A, Putth button
systemp.
W& want inte.vot=u throuhts411, tho orRicos.
That woad be the telephoneo but w would have to J,is....
cuss it* Also the, .pkvapinv sta.tion alarm* Ono other
thi)r.* lqo will
iv o 'to two** some arOa for az• awallary
powor plan and whereby ir It gooi, Out it will autollatleally
tam, 'oho livalts, on*.
Greeley; That next atop*, taaall we just Stowe at those lAttlas to
see it any other questions come up* We (1.0 not have the
bex,ings
yet Tho teat pt o hive not been 41-ug* We will
oend you a 1w int ti:k,lOrnAr 1311014M ,j'AF,jt. where we want
them dua#
Je,44nsont Is thero any -provision in here f or aar eonditioning?
Oreoloy$ We aboad deol4e0 If Wo oanl what PQMO you think
.' n4tild reasonably haIN that 'gooey fapEalt on them*, The.
.assetably 00I1 14911111, btl one that Walld be used bly
numbers oi: psople* I dontt lalow wlult roma needs air.
aon4it ioninz*,
HUntorl Oat, abinzt the ertiee?
Johnson:, What. tioov it .involve7 I thowght it weal be discuses&
Solaebbing tiwt. woad be used at some futurs tie.,
er,.,;004,074 Yon, haVvent
e tr) have pipine; and s*
johnsora I think amke time In the i:wtwe a unit (load be set
up in tha battegionti,
Gr0olet Ir 'you Wfwe doing it wh.ekt romaa iruala 'yu, inolde?
1.1 (1,4 All the ason d :Clear*
Grekatql 1$10 .are vLt IS to 3.1WiLatO 00, tilkli 00CM-id ,floew will
not bo ktry MIMI', than th0 rlral'o' tiovr,
Johneem$ what doeg It coati toe 111A0h?
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Oroolv44 A Aoo-d alr aondition systvm, soutO a lot.
HOntorl What Ored has in mind is not to put in tho system nowt
but to provide tor It in tho Zuturo.
Greelvt Dumta tor all the ;moms will run into a high. flgurs.
Gbalmant Thgy will be getting into tho problegtof coolinc Water*
la 'four exponse would not VOOM units be tho simpl0
Solution?
Maioneyl Thsq would Otill mod water*
Chairnarit To do tbo whols bat wuld run into a lot
Ortels74 The duets mad oast a lot mouoy. I2 rdon't w talc
to U4ball lawn bo. is boro no-4t ti:mo?
Tfunt01 4hat Ventiltaaror the Shootinvi mllory?
Oraoloy4 It will b sool #;inough* It is throe ppot unAmpound.
Thera Is wevIsion fr., ventilation., Thom 14111 be torood
vontilation km' the assembly room and all the toilets
MassaehutottS
4e AY 0 Written In the spsoltio4;tions to asls, the son.
taptell to aisposootnatozial not notided wiore dirooted*
Is it to bo La the dump? This is jUst tor altft Any
matolyle other than Low m to t be plaood at ti dwv.
r,we planathg this as 'a 13,1,40prOof balkalng WA1141
bo briok linod with sindo4 10.00-P, with 0*011 bloall On tho
inside. Tho flocrs are '4"einrome,1 sonoroto slab.
Vanasyt Would they slide Into plaes?
ar6010714 MY* Mom ttal be %a undor lawnt under the tila to
ot a 'Iwo). surfase and then asphalt tile.
In the toilets it is ceramic tile, We want the parti-
tions polished marble and we aro going to ask for
polished marble. just for the stall partitions. The
stairs will be, if we can get it, North River blue
stone. It Is about the same stone as a grind stone.
For the partitions through the building, we are planto use a well seasoned cinder block filled and
painted. It i most economical. The ceiling I think
you should have accoustical tile oz accoustical plastic
on a good many of those rodms. It is very popular. I
dont t think ycu nedd to spend the mnney.
Chairman; What is the comparative cost?
ole : About I a square foot more for the tile.
Johnson: I would like tho looli,a of the plaster tile.
Groeloyht Tho windows are like these of course, metal trim on
the inside. boors will be flush instead of panel.
Aside from the treads the stair iron railing will be
painted llks this in the same design. I think we have
covered the items you are interetted in.
Chief: Will the building be like our office now where everyone
in the building can hear us when we talk?
Greeley: Ibu can make a room soundproof, Tau aro thinking of the
detention roomy juvenile and your office?
Chief:
No. I would rather have the office where the Interrogation
woald go on quiet.
Greeley.: Rowebout the juvenile?
01.014 No.
Greeley: Let us say we will do then all the detention rem. For
one thing we will have double doors.
Chief: We should give sone thottfilt todo'unroofing the room
whore the radio and teletype maaline is.
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Greeley; That should be tile all the way around*
Hunter.* Wbat will be done in the shooting gallery to absorb th
sound? /how
fAveeley: i on't 4nowyouch. o an area you have to eover* The
shooting end Should be all accouatically treated* The
vost of it will not need, anything,
r,ic you want to moot on, same particular day with our
engineer and oarry this the next step or is any day in
tho weelt bettor than another?
°Warman: One week. tram tonight would be all right«
Greeley' It is out for vo* I don't necessarily have to be thee.
Mr . Oakman and probably Mr« toiSher will bo here and Mr«
KiAball* After that, the first o May, we should be
gotting
this fairly well buttoned up but I can't tell.
We will do the beet we can. Do you go along generally
with the Specifications a mentioned?
The meeting a4journed at 9t1,15 P. M.
A true record, Atteatt
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