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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1955-11-16-ATOBC-min I ADDITIONAL TOWN OFFICE BUILDING COMMITTEE November16, 195$ A meeting of tho Additional Town Office Building Committee . \ WA) held in the Seleotmen't Room, Town Office Building, on wed 1 \nosday, November 16, 1955 at 0100 P4 M. Chairman Brooks, Nossrso rrater, Johnson and. Maloney were present. Piro Greeley, the ' chitect, and, the Secretary were also present, The i4lairman road a letter from the Capital Expenditures. ommittee requesting a mooting to learn what is contemplated In the way of capital expenditures during the next five.year 0,riod,0 The Chairman was authorized to acknowledge the oommuniea. ion and advise that at this time the Committee is not prepared o disouss what the amount its capital expenditures may be, owev or, at a later date it would be pleased to discuss the , wount of money it expects the now building may cost. Hr. Greeley presented a third set of plans which were Studied and discuceed more or loos as follows: Oreel4y; We have a set of plans that embodies, as far as we could, the thoughts that came out last meeting when the Chief was with you, it works out all right, I think, for this stage. This lethe basement or the present building and, as you sug6estod, the Veterans, Cemetery Commissioners, uelfare and Civil Defense aro in these room* under us. You come in the back door which is the pollee door now. It loaves plenty of room in the building downstairs for storage and three automobiles, If you think it wise, we are suggesting for three oars. Chairmant This middle partition* is not at present there? Greeleyo zoo, That is right. It means three separate stalls here, The next floor has no change. Haskell Reed apoke of a Planning Board conference room which we already had. I took it up with Mt. Snow and he thought it was just the thing. We sold it could be larger and I guess we decided it would be larger, It will not rob the engineers so we will make it larger, We will make it one room across the front. Now we come to the new building. Here we have . in the first place, I suppose it is better to start on the first floor and go up or down, - 41•21i, fl Greeley; We oome in the main entrance as before into a ve0tim, bule, a corridor with the offie, counterand a oornev out for the quiet place for signals, teletype. Than going through to the olork's room and then the itteten. tion room and oneeway glass. On the left* from the main door, are the assistants' room 12i x 141 , and the Chier's room with a door for escape. Across the corridor is a fingerprinting room and the dark room, vault, women's and men's toilets, assembly room for 100 with a storage off of it. liewever, we have another door from outdoors with a stair case, Hunter: We have three entrances now? Greeley Right. An entrance towards the Barnes property, the main entranee to the department in front and at the rear, entrance for the second floor which is not in. teneed to be an entranc4 for the polio department, but they will have a key. Going aeon stare, The aeoand floor people, if thy go. down the stairs, go right put doors at that door there. The police, if walking, can 091110 in this door into their locker room and toilet, or leave their ors in the garage and come in here to the same lookerroom, or if they are on this side they can, come in this OA* tranoe. It is all Shut away from the second floor. Then you come into the locker room and there is space fer sixty 16" lookers, two water closets, two Urinals, three showers and one howl, From the looker room you go up three steps to a landing, a little higher than the basement floor and there is a gun rack. You pass that and go down stairs and you arein the shooting gallery which is 751, twenty-five yards to the back well here. Johnson: How much lower is the floor level of the shooting gallery? Greeley: 202 and the looker room is 209. It is seven f4et down. The floor and walls of the gallery will. 1) water proofed. In the center of the room of th4 basement is the boiler roam which Is down at 275, the storage in front and as before we have women's cells and matron'a room on one side and cella at the police entrance, janitor's room and electric mem* three stalls e one stall is outside the wan of the building. If we go way to the top there is only ono way, we enter here and that is the stairway nearest Gary Memorial. You come in, and on the left is the health °Moo and then there will be inspectors with counter and dosks. At one end is a lot of fileS. Hunter: Is that enough room for the false? Greeley; More than enough. , , ( Greeley: Then there is a conference room, Adjoining is the building department* There are some vaults there and - a janitor's sink, Down the corridor you come to the counter of the Asseseors. Their office room is 17 x 21' and their conference room which has a. door to the corridor so it could be assigned to someone else when the Assessors did not need it. Then come down the (Corridor a little. further and you come to the counter of the Public Welfare* . Maloney: isn't that downstairs? Greeley; We have it noted in both places. Which would you say is the best of the two plaoes? Maloney; I think it would be best for the old people to. oome into the first floor* Greeley: They need two rooms ox' one large room, , Maloney: If someone came In asking for aid wouldn't it be nice for them to have a private room to discuss their per.. sonal business* Greeley: The Veterans' A. and Cemetery are very happy in one room now. One of the VeterAnneCometery rooms could be used by Welfare or Civil Defense, Johnson; If you dont need the garage that Is space to be used. Maloney; Whose idea was that? • Greeley: It was mine, but don't lot it worry you. Maloney: We have one garage now and it is not used, I think we could use an office to better advantage* Greeley: At the preent time no one uses this garage? Maloney; No* It is not being used. Greeley: If no ono uses it new it would seem fooliph to have three, prom what you say we don't lued any more garag4is, , )'or the present, we will call this then Welfare, Maloney: I think it could be assigned easy enough, Chairman: The advantage to this is that they could eome in from th, parking area* Greeley: If Welfare needs a conferene,e room right aoress the lobby here, where I have marked storage, could he used s a room* I had better study their work again so to make sure, Johnson: There is enough room there4 . Greeleyt I will go tier to the Barnes again. Going back to the top floor of the new building where we had the Public Welfare it will please Haskell to put it, another conference room and we will have room for growth* . Maloney: Have two Or three unassigned, Greeley: All right, let's call them unassigned, Hunter: At Town Meeting, Harold 1,4,mont will ask why we have all the extra rooms, . Greeley: You can always say there is a need for conference rooms and at some time you could put in a department* Hunter: I think it would be well to mark it something* Greeley: All right, conference rooms, , This seems to be better than what we had before doesn't it? . Hunters Very much, • -4- Greeley: Ther4, is one thing we have not done and that is to show the vents, When you come to the next stage or the plan we have to leave room for tbt. vents to go up, through the roof, Ono vont will take care of the eon and one of the storage rooms, That make a difference of a few inches. we ourselves don't know all about it until we gat our heating engin4er to work on it, It won't change the sloe of the room more than six inches. Johnson: The Chief mentioned two and three carfgarage, Maloney: Disease it with him again. Be has no further suggestions on the present building, Greeley: I will take it up again with him and if he says leave thin for the future, the Committ“ will go along? Maloney: Yes, Greeley: Tho only thing outsized in the requirtments of a building the size of this ono Is the Shooting galIery. Chairman: Why ie it necessary to have a private toilet for a janitor? Greel4yt It is almost universal If you have a meeting in the near future you would probably like us to take this to an estimating contractor, or wouldntt you? Maldneyt When we get to a point we would sed an estimate. I would not want to spend too mach money on this bnilding. I think it would get out of hand, Greeley: We 11ves saved money tonight by not having those garages* Maloney* The partitions don't need to be masonry do they? Greeley: They could be John-Mantiville, There in about 4400 or 6500* There is one opening in this room, if you want to make it, which is another 4400* On the top floor is a partition for the Planning Board and one here at $600. That is 04.00 for this building, Maloney: On the garagl on the other, side. Will there be a drain in oast the police cars are washed? „/ Greeley: Moro will tJ' , a drain eitherjust outside and drain the floors out ob have it in the garage and have it slope toward the drain, Maloney: Most of the time they would be washing the cars and cleaning them inside, especially in the winter. Greeley: We can put the drain inside, Maloney: Are we going to run into the problem of a gas trap? Greeley: it is not a problem, but we will have a gas trap, Johnson:. From a practical. standpoint, the patrolman coming in here when he gets ready to report to the assembly room, he then comes up the stair5? Greeley: Right, Would you want a door there so that if they comp up this stair they would not be seen? johnsont I think the Chief moans that. Greeley: Should we shut it off so SOM4 stranger at the counter could not see him? Chairman: I would suggest taking that up With the Chief, It would be very easy to do. Johnson: Then the fellows are not going to come. up hero, They are going up there, Greeley: You think it would be better policy to keep them inside their own building. Xf they come in a oar they don't even have to go outdoors, Mr. Greeley c ;11 & the Oommitteole attention to a diocropancy in the plan, submitted by the Engineering Department and Mr. Johnson euggested, and the Committee agreed, returning it to the 4ngincers requeating that the particular area where the building le going be Checked, The Chairmen asked If Mr, Greeley wanted to have the contours checked and he replied in the affirmative. Mr, Hunter said, that it may have boon copied from a previous plan and Ar, Greeley maid that it is very important and he should know what it is now, not what it was, Greeley i If you would like some more sets I can have them sent oat, Maloney: We will have the Chief look at them and at least get the police station end of this worked out, Greeley: I will talk to him tomorrowit he is around. What would, you like to have done next? Chairman : I think we Should spend some time taking it over, get the police settled, and talk with some of the other departments, Hunter: Who should we talk to, Burns or Gayer? Maloney: Burns now and Gayer later. Greeley: Shall we wait to hear from you? Maloney: After you talk to the Chief you might let us know, Hanterl Send us another print corrected to suit. Greeley: Then we will wait until w hear from you. Mr. Greeley retired at 9110 k',P, Chairman: Who do you think we should have in next, BurnsT Maloney: When the Chief and Mr. Greeley meet we can close the police station, Do you think w ould discuss the plane with the Selectmen? Johnson: We haven't too much time, Chairman: We will fellow thAolugh to be sure our police business is settled. That should not take more than a week, The following week should we have Burns in? Johnson: Lot's Ittake it leas than two weeks, Chairman: It ie agreeable to me, I can Shook :Friday and call you people, It was agreed to hold a meeting on. Tuesday, November 22nd, The meeting adjourned at 935 P M. A true record, Attest: 7raFFEEP7