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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1964-06-22-min Ti t7 21 SELECTMEN'S MEETING June 22, 1964 A regular meeting of the Board of Selectmen was held in the Selectmen's Room, Town Office Building, on Monday, June 22, 1964, at 7:30 P.M. Chairman Cole, Messrs. Brown, Burnell, Cataldo and Sheldon were pre- sent. Mr. Gray, Executive Assistant, Mr. Higgins, Assistant Town Engineer, and Miss Murray, Executive Clerk, were also present Mr. Higgins informed the Board that bids will be Bids taken on the second sewer contract, including the streets to be constructed, on June 29, at 4:00 P.M. Mr. Higgins reported on bids taken for sidewalk construction. The Chairman read a letter from Rotondi and Sons, a copy of which was given to Mr.Higgins, with refer- ence to the specifications . Mr. Higgins stated that the contractors are warned in the contract to become fully acquainted with the job. Many times when they come in and get the specifications, they ask for a map or have someone from the Engineering Department go out with them. In this case, one of the men in the department did go out with Mr. Rotondi.* He explained that Mr. Rotondi apparently is talking about building a sidewalk and the Town is rebuilding. He said only one inch of gravel would be put in so the specifi- cations s written are correct Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to award the contract for sidewalk construction to Celluci Construction Company, the low bidder, at its bid price of $5,800. Sidewalk & Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted Street to award the contract for street and sidewalk resurfacing resurfacing to Trimount Bituminous Company, the low bidder, in the amount of $34,515. The Chairman read a letter from Robert J. Dunn, Conduit & Right of Way Agent for the New England Telephone and manhole lo- Telegraph Company, relative to the hearing held on cations June 1 on petition for proposed conduit and manhole lo- cations in Massachusetts Avenue and Rowland Avenue. Mr. Dunn has visited Mr.Pfaff, 6 Rowland Avenue, and telephoned Mr. Robert X. Geary, 8 Rowland Avenue, who were present at the hearing and raised some questions. Both gentlemen have withdrawn their objections. * He said he did not understand Mr Rotondi 's statements. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was vol-ed to grant the petition and sign the order for the fol- lowing telephone conduit and manhole locations : Massachusetts Avenue, from a po nt 40► easterly frcm westerly side of Rowland Avenue, one manhole 58/8A. From M H 58/8A, southwesterly, approximately 8.51 of underground conduit . Rowland Avenue , southerly, then westerly, from Massachu- setts Avenue , approximately 411 .5, of underground conduit . The Chairman read a let er from Mrs. Alan H. Barrett , 3 Dane Road, requesting permission to codduct a block party on Sunday, June 5, between five and seven o'clock Permit on the area bounded by Dane and Foster Roads. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant the r.;quest. The Chairman read a lette r from the Planning Board stating that in the opinion of that Board it would be desirable for the Town to acquire the land owned by Burton Harrison, 29 North Street , adjacent to the Willard's Woods Mr. Sheldon said he would be in favor of the Con- servation Commission acquiring this land, if the Board is in favor of purchasing it , and recover 50% of the price . Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to acquire the property through the Lexington conser- vation Commission, working with Mr. Gray, and h. t the Commission be requested to take the necessary steps Harrison prioi+ to Town Meeting action. land Mr. Gray reported that Mr. Harrison wants $3500 for five acres . The Chairman asked Mr . Gray to work with the Con- servation Committee Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant permission to Mrs . John T. Blackwell and other residents of Bennington Road to conduct a block party Permit on Tuesday, June 23, between five and seven in the even- ing. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to a; prove the minutes of the Selectmen ' s Meeting held Minutes on June 15, 1964. 1 9 78 #a c- Cc PI Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted License toissue a Public Carriage License to William M. Belcher, new owner of the Lexington Cab Co. ,Inc . Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted License to renew Mr. William G. Nowlin's license to be a Guide within the limits of the Town. Further consideration was given to Mr. Donald F. Bryant 's application for a Taxi Driver's license. Mr. Gray advised that this is the gentleman who wants to purchase the Minute Man Cab Co , Inc . The problem is a residence restriction which he cannot meet because he does not live inLexington although he plans to as soon as smib as he can dispase of his property in Danvers Mr. Sheldon suggested granting a license for a period of six months . Mr. Gray was requested to discuss the subject with Mr Bryant Mr . Gray reported on the Planning Board' s recommend- dation relative to offers received by the Board to purchase tax title lits Valleyfield Street and Hillside and Ann Tax title Avenue . Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to advise Mr. Anthony A. LaRocca, 18 Partridge Avenue , Somerville, that it is the Board's opinion that it would be in the best interest of tie Town to retain Lot 79, Valleyfield Stre ,t. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to advise Mr. Allen E. Haighton, 9 Tucker Avenue, that Tax title it is the Board's opinion that it would be in the best interest of the Town to retain tax title lots on Hill- side Avenue and Ann Street . Letter from the Oil Burner Technicians, Inc. , 7 Massachusetts Avenue, requesting permission to locate a Class A Citizens ' Band radio station in the vicinity of Russell Road and Winchester Drive, was held over. Radio The Chairman read a letter from Mr. Ncrman J. station Richards, Special Counsel, advising that he could find no authority for the Board of Selectmen to grant per- mission for aprivate corporation (not a public utility) to use a portion of a public way (Winchester Drive) for a purely private purpose It was Mr.Richard' s opinion, based on the }3resei'itation made by the corporation's re- presentative, on June 15, that such a grant would be beyond the authority of the Board T The Chairman read a letter from Norman J. Richards, Special Counsel, with reference to a letter dated June 17 received by the Board from Robert P . Outerbridge with reference to the sewer for 8 Goodwin Road. Goodwin The Chairman said he would write to Mr. Outerbridge Road sewer and in reply to his inquiries, quote from Mr. Richard' s letter Mr.Hig,ins retired at 8:00 P.M. At 8:00 P .M , hearing was held upon application of Raymond F. Boudreau for a Retail Package Goods Store License to sell all alcoholic beverages at 20 Worthen Road. Mr. Bourdrea, 41 Baskin road, his attorney, Charles B. McCauley, Jr , 7 Winn Stre t, Woburn, and several persons were present at the hearing. The Chairman stated that notice of the hearing was advertised in the June 4, 1964 issue of the Lex- Boudreau ington Minute-man Package Mr. McCauley stated that he had sent notices to Goods the abutters and submitted return receipts to the Store Chairman . hearing The Chairman explained that proponents would speak, when the proponents h.d concluded, anyone appearing in opposition would be given an opportunity to speak and then the proponents would have an oppor- tunity to answer questions . Mr. Charles R. McCauley, Jr. , 7 Winn Streot , Woburn, stated that he was representing the potitionbr, Mr. Raymond F. Boudreau He provided each member of the Board with a copy of the lot layout and a plan of the building which was illustrated in a painting he had on display Mr. McCauley explained this is the u 'ual appli- cation for a Package Goods Store permit under Chapter 138 of the General Laws. He said the ap licant is a resident of the Town of Lexington and a substantial taxpayer. The location proposed is on Worthen Road opposite the First National Store. The area is three-quarters of an acre - %,390 square feet , and the entire a ea would be used for just this one building and purpose . The land in this area is zoned, under the Town of Lexington zoning law, as a C-2 area He said he understood a C-2 area is the only area under the present law in Lexington where a package store is permitted. The Town has three C-2 districts, one area next to the Arlington line, in which there are two of this type stores; the other C-2 zone is the Center where there ale three of these re- tail establi hments. The third and last remaining 280 aa') C" area is this loca ion off Worthen Road. He pointed out that this area is in theHistoric Districts and the plans and specifications for the building have been submitted and approved by the Historic Districts Coxruuission. He said the lot is large and there would be a large green area; there would be Colonial lanterns along the walk to the store and Mr . Boudreau would install granite curbing along Worthen Road. In addition, it is proposed to install underground wiring so there will be no overhead wires. All products will be received through a rear door and if storage is needed, it will be on the second floor. There will be an electric escalator inside the building to carry the product to the second floor. Any disposal will be in a large steel container provided by a private contractor and disposed of by a private contractor . He said there would be no neon signs outside or in the windows of the establishment. All parking will be off the road, on the side, and to the rear with none in front No one else wished to speak in favor of granting the license. Mr. Carl Blake said he was representing the First Parish Church, and the First Parksh Church Committee at its recent meeting voted unanimously to oppose this license for two reasons They are not objecting to Mr. Boudreau, but this particular enterprise in this particu- lar zone in Town . He said it is the location of this type of store in a district which is close to three churches and within the Historic District The second reason is the question of the need of this type of ser- vice in this area of Lexington It is very close to the existing C-2 District He said the license is permissible but not obligatory. He said the amount of competition in the center of the Town is such that there would be no appreciable service rendered to the citizens of Lexington . Mr. Alden Jefts, Precinct 4, said there was some directioniven to the then existing Board of Selectmen at the 1963 Annual Town Meeting when permissive use of liquor stores was requested in several areas . This was out on the Town warrant to determine the Town 's feelings and overwhelmingly at that Town Meeting it was indicated that the Town Meeting Members and their constituents did not feel that further licenses were necessary to the welfare of the Town nor should the Board of Selectmen feel compelled to issue the license available. Mr. Malcolm Gavin, Precinct 4, stated that he agreed with the first speaker. Mr. Howard Custance wished to be recorded in oppo- sition and said it is bad taste to put a store like this in a residential district where there are three churches and children traveling back and forth to the playground and Hayden Recreation Center. 281 Mrs. Caroline Smith, 253 Waltham Street, said she has a husband, two boys, one twenty-three and one sixteen. They have lived in Lexington five years and she wished to state the whole neighborhood is against this. Mr. Richard Reckard, 93 Adams Street, was recorded in opposition. Mr. Frank McBride said the line should be drawn at five liquor stores There are three churches and the children go back and forth to the center playground and it is not conducive to good upbringing of these children He was recorded in opposition. Mrs . Barbara Reckard said she was opposed and that five liquor stores are five too many, and dry towns use the stores in Lexington. Mr. Nielson, Vine Brook Road, said he strongly ob- jected to any more liquor stores in this Town Grace Pearson, Freemont Street , a teacher, said be- cause of the moral example, she was opposed. Mr. Reuben Seth said he was not for or against, but he did not recall that he received a notice, and asked if he wouldn't be considered an abutter Mr. McCauley explained that he checked with the Board of Assessors ' records and Mr. Seth is not an abutter as his land does not adjoin the property Mr. Seth said he has a triangular piece of property in there and he did not think they were properly notified. The Chairman said this would be noted. Mrs . Eula Wilder, Normandy Road, said she has lived here four years but as a member of one of the churches in this area, it is not a pleasing thing to have friends or relatives from out of State come into the Town and see a Package Goods Store so near three churches. She said for herself she does not like that she has to be one in the Town of Lexington that has allowed a liquor store. She said she does not use it and is very much opposed and that five stores are enough Mr. Henry Hoffman, 2561+ Massachusetts Avenue, said he, as a member of one of the churches, and as one who would like to see the Town dry, was opposed Elaine Major said she goes to Grace Church and they do not approve of this. She was sure an overwhelming majority of the church would be opposed. Reverend Wilder of Grace Chapel said he would like to keep Worthen Road a residential community. They do not want this liquor store with the new apartments or the church. The C iairman read a letter fram Ephraim Weiss, 462 Lowell Street , registering_ opposition. AVL !ate 771 Mr McCauley explained that the General Laws provide for a liquor store for every 5,000 inhabitants or fraction The 1960 census was ,,lose to 27,000 and there is a State or Federal census taken every five years . With the next one, there is a possibility of the population going over 30,000, at which time another store would be permissible. He stated that when the legislature adopted that law, it saw to it that 5,000 population was adequate for the support and maintenance of a store. He said whether people approve of liquor or don 't approve of liquor, he didn 't think the burden should be on the Board A majority of the voters in the Town have adopted liquor in the Package Store category and they majority rules The immediate abutters, Niles Realty and Douglas Trust , have no objection and do not feel it would be harmful to the rental of the apartments or they would be present to oppose He said the liquor industry is very closely controlled and the Board has the authority to grant the license The Board also has the right to revoke or suspend if they see any violations. He said no one is permitted to go in the sabre unless he is twenty-one or over. * In regard to being in the Historic Districts ' area, the building has been approved and will conform with the general nature of the area. One gentleman asked if there was a law against having a liquor store so near a church. Mr. McCauley explained that liquor stores aye per- mitted within 500 feet of schools and churches. The nearest church, he paced it with his car, is 4/10 of a mile. Mr. Jefts said the Board of Selectmen now sitting is not entirely alone in that it does have a vote of the Town Meeting to guide it. No one else wishing to speak, the Chairman declared the hearing closed at 8 30 P.M Later in the evening, it was unanimously voted to deny the application of Raymond F. Boudreau for a Package Goods Store license at 20 Worthen Road . Dog Officer, Michael Shaughnessy, met with the Board. Herscott The Chairman stated that the hearing scheduled upon dog request of Murray Herscott, 12 Rumford Road, has been postponed at Mr. Herscott 's verbal request . The Chairman informed Officer Shaughnessy that Mr . John Brucchi, 63 Paul Revere Road, met with the Board last week and reported that the dog owned by Mr Adams , 69 Paul Revere Road, was out in violation of the Board's Adams ' restraining order dog Officer Shaughnessy said that he has ,one up to Adams ' house at least a dozen times and has never seen *During holidays and sundays, the store is not open. L__ the dog outside. The dog is out in the morning and evening but the people were right there with her and took her back into the house. He said abort ten days ago, he was at the corner of Bedford and Hill Streets and received a call. He went right up, but the dog was not out He stated that Mr.Brucchi has no complaint at all; that this is a neighborhood feud and he has told Mr. BAzncchi it is a neighborhood feud, between Brucchi and Adams . He said not once have the Adamses violated the restraining order Mr . Sheldon said it would ajj:ear that Mr . Shaughnessy does not have enough information to file a complaint . Officer Shaughnessy said, not any. He has talked to the Adamses and some of the neighbors , and the dog is never free. The neighbors say that airs . Adams is with the dog at all times He said there is no basis for a complaint . Officer Shaughnessy re orted that Mr Murray Herscott was fined by the Court . He went over there this evening at 6: 30 and left at 8:00 He said th_ s is another neighborhood feud Mr. Sheldon asked if the Herscott deg was now being restrained, and Officer jhaughnessy replied in the affirma- tive . Mr . Sheldon asked if everything was being done that should be done and there was no cause for complaint . Officer Shaughnessy replied the dog is being re- strained, it is tied and will be tied. He said if it gets away, the dog will be disposed of. The Chairman reported that Mr. Herscott is retaining counsel. It was agreed to advise Mr. Brucchi that after con- sulting with the Dog Officer, the Board found that the Adams ' dog is being restrained to the best of the Dog Officer ' s knowledge Officer Shaughnessy retired Members of the Board of Directors of the Chamber of Commerce, Mr. Scheublin, of the Lexington Trust Company, Mr . William Potter of the Lexington Savings Bank, Mrs. Riffin and Mr. Zalesky of the Planning Board, arrived at Downtown the meeting . business The Chairman explained that the meeting was to do area with the downtown business area. Mr . Kolovson and the Chamber of Commerce has had a meting . The reaction of the Town has been good as far as he ha; been able to determine, and asked if anyone had heard unfavorable action. 284 z �TMa Mr. Kolovson said in 1961, March 9, he cut an article out of the Boston Traveler about Williamsburg and thought it might apply to Lexington . He said it has long been his f:eling, six years, that the center of Lexington would be in trouble as a result of the people going to shopping centers. He said every time a shopping center opens , whether successful or not , busi- ness is taken away from someone doing business before. He said the time to do something is to start as soon as possible There have been two ways in which downtown business areas have fought to keep alive . One has been for the merchants to get together and go on a promotional campaign and out-price their competitors He said some of this may be necessary and good, but he has not felt this is in keeping with what the people of this Town would like. He said he feels the way to keep people shopping in Town is to offer them something the other centers do not haN, e He said he did not feel that the center, as it now stands, is in keeping with the image of a town of its heritage. He has written Williamsburg, St. Augustine, Scottsdale, but he feels a restoration would not be proper because it would entail too much work. In disaussing this for the past three years, they have been working for a face lifting, giving Lexington Center an historical image Two weeks -go tomorrow, they met with several people of the Arthur D. Little Company who worked in this general a: ea of putting a new life into the centers of larger cities . They feel Lex- ington would have to do something dramatic and that Lexington should put up a facade He said they have explored several different ways of getting the project done and would like to do it through private financing. He said he was seriously concerned about the future of retaining in Lexington Center unless a major project is undertaken. He said any survey would show that Lexington Center is not getting its proper share of the retail dollar. As a resident, he would not like to see the day when there are many stores for rent in Lexington Center He said some action should be taken before it is too late. The Chairman said a meeting had been held with re- presentatives of the National Historical Park. Mr. Brown reported that it did not prove too fruit- ful. It was thought that through it , it might be possible to get financial aid. However, there is nothing in the way of financial assistance through the National Park Service He said the group should not only be talking in terms of the downfall of Lexington Center, but should be thinking ahead of what is being told about the opening of the National P rk He said a week ago, the Board voted that Mr. Gray would work with the Chamber of Commerce to see if this can be kept going He stated tha tomorrow he, Mr. Gray, Mr. Trani and Mr Kolovson have an ap- pointment with a foremost urban renewal architect working with Ha_•vard who has displayed a very general interest. The Chairman :sked(.if the Planning Board had dis- cussed this . Mr. Zalesky replied there has been no meeting since the Board heard of this . Three members of the Board are out of Town. The Chairman said the Selectmen feel this is some- thing that should not be dropped, and asked if the merchants had indicated any unfavorable reaction. A gentleman, who d-d not give his iiame, said he has not heard anything that would undermine the plan of what little they have obtained through Mr. Kolovson. He said there is great consideration given to renewal of leases in Town and several a_ e coming up. They aie pursuing the thought of shorter term leases. This would lend itself as to what happened in North Carolina. He said he be- lieved the merchants are 100% behind anything like this, and with the exception oi. two landlords , he did not know how they feel about it . The Chairman asked if there was a list of the land- lords who would be involved Mr Kolovson replied he has a list that is 90% com- pleted. The Chairman asked in what manner this would be pursued, that very shortly some concrete action would have to be taken. Mr. Tarbox said this is something whighLJall the Boards are bound to be inter.)sted in; the Town is bound to be interested for the assessed valuations which are bound to go one way or another and the Chamber of Commerce is interested from its members ' point f view. He said the Planning Board is bound to be interested because it will affect the planning over the year s, and he thought most of the organizations in the Town are vitally interested and it would seem as though a committee must be formed which would comprise of someone from most of these organi- zations so that the Chamber of Commerce, Board of Selectmen and Planning Board would not be duplicating the work, and that some plan could be worked out to obtain the necessary information. He said a committee of some type must be formed Mr. Adams said the committee should be able to go beyond planning and set up some action as time is short He said there will be the shopping center, and in five years, the park will be in operation. Mrs . Rawls said that if the group is trying to have the Center look like something in the R evolutionary days, she did not think it is the type of thing that attracts 286 . Crl Cz" people to a store to spend money This keeps everything away except tie tourist trade She said care should be taken not to let this go too much in the "Ye Olde Lexington" renovation. She said she sent ques ionnaires to forty Boston stores that have more than one branch to see how they felt about moving to a town near a large shopping center. She received from twenty to forty answers and one half said they would be glad to move to Lexington if there was adequate parking. They want four parking spaces per front foot and Lexington does not have this and never will . She said she did not know if business would be attracted by making the front of the stores better or not. Mr. Kolovson said they hope to have a professional economic survey to tell whether or not this project is feasible. He said they would be out to make this a better town, provide for more facilities than are now existing for the residents. He said he thought the approach Mr Trani has taken would be the approach. Mr. Bateman said after the survey, they would need a plan that would be a guide to all those who desire to make a change. He has already started plans for a renovation of his store, and if there were a theme, he would make sure he complied with the general theme. If there is no theme, he would continue on the theme he has ' started which is semicolonial. He said if there is a whole general plan for the Center, it would be a help for those who want to change to get co-opeation. He said he has heard figures as to the number of cars ex- pected in Lexington Center per day when this Park is opened, and if parking facilities are not available, the Town will be so filled with cars they will not be able to move. He has heard 5,000 cars a day. The Chairman said he heard 250,000 cars a year. Mr. Cataldo asked if the Chamber of Commerce was thinking about restoration of the existing stores or a new layout of the Center Mr.Kolovson said the survey would have to tell them what is needed in the way of new space, new facili- ties and new service. They ale not thinking of radical demolition it' on of the Center . Mr. Adams said a survey will have to tell them. There will be some changes. Mr Cataldo asked if the Chamber of Commerce was thinking of just the business land. Mr. Kolovson said some of both would be involved. He would like to make the Center compact rather than spread out . He said none of them are qualified to say what is lacking in Lexington Center. They know they r , need a nice department store but what else is needed The library is the biggest attraction for people who come to Lexington Center. He read a comment from the Burlington newspaper made by Mr. Gummery of Filene 's. The Chairman asked what the usual cost of such a survey is . Mr. Kolovson replied in 1961 they had an estimate of $37,000. One method used in several towns would be that of forming a Fifty Club whereby fifty interested individuals give $1,000 a year in the interest of improv- ing the Town . He said the State has also issued grants for cities. Mr. Adams said, if this is going to be done, it would be necessary to spend some real money. The Chairman said the first thing would be to form a committee. Mr. Kolovson said they feel the Chamber of Commerce has done as much research as possible and notr it has to try and get the survey. The Chairman said this is not going to be done by any one group, but by a cross section of the citizens of the Town and there should be a representation of all elements concerned. group Mrs. York said this is larger than any individual can handleshould not go one way and another group going another way. He said he liked the suggestion of the Arthur D. Little Company in not trying to be in competition with the shopping center going in Burlington. Mrs . Rawls said the Capital Expenditures Committee and the Planning Board have hopes of making a start on some type of long range financial plans in the future. They have not been able to determine whether they can do it without an outside consultant If they do this, and a consultant is going to be hired, they would like to find out if his efforts could be used for a wide study The Chairman asked if she was speaking of a consultant for the Town as a whole. Mrs Rawls replied if a consultant is going to be hired, one to do the whole study would be less expensive than hiring two . Mr. Moore said whatever is done should be restricted to the Center of the Town, because if the whole Town is included, this can get lost. He said he thought the committee should be small and should be appointed quickly. The Chairman said if they want a real cross section of the Town, it might be as large as nine members Mr. Cataldo said the Chamber of Commerce has put in three years now, and it should be determined whether money b 288 al is going to be available and where it is to come from before wasting everyone 's time . He said the most important item is to find out where the money is cominc prom. The gentleman who spoke earlier without giving,his name said people have been thinking what kind of a center are they trying to plan, what kinds of stores would be there, who would the customers be, what would the Size of the district be and what kind of overall plan is in the minds of the people proposing this . The Chairmansaid an economic survey is proposed From an architectural point of view, some of the group is meeting tomorrow with an urban renewal architect to get some of his thoughts. Mr. Moore said there are five people om the Board representing the people of the Town and asked why they could not represent this. Mr. Adams said the committee should not be limited to five and groups that will be backing this should be represented Mr. Bevis said he has not heard anything mentioned of private plans . People make a specialty of this and asked if consideration should be given to investigating using people who do this in private industry Mr. Cataldo pointed out that the property owners have to be contended with. The Chairman suggested a committee consisting of representatives from the Chamber of Commerce, Planning Board, or Director, Board of Selectmen, Historic Districts Commission. Mr.Kolovson said a representative from the League of Women Voters should be represented and a representi.- tive of the citizens of the Town. One gentleman suggested the Capital Expenditures Committee. Mr. Adams stated too many Towngovernment repre- sentatives should not be on the committee Mr. Sheldon asked about the property owners . Mr. Moore said there should be one individual re- presenting the property owners The Chairman asked the group who it expected to take the lead in this , and if they felt the Selectmen should take the lead and appoint the committee. Mr. Rooney asked Mr. Kolovson the purpose of this meeting. Mr. Kolovson said the Board of Selectmen wanted to discuss this with the members of the Chamber of Commerde. Mr. Adams said the Chambercf Commerce has done most of the work and asked for its recommendations. Mr. Kolovson suggested three from the Chamber of 289 Commerce, one Selectman, one from the Historic Districts, one representing the property owners, a citizen and a representative of the League of Women Voters Mr. Gray said he thought the committee should be twelve or fifteen if everyone is to be represented. He suggested an executive committee of three or five who could enlarge . The Chairman suggested a main committee of five people, one from the Chamber of Commerce, one from the Planning Board, 6ne from the Board of Selectmen, one from the Historic Districts Commission and one of the owners . He said then there could be an auxiliary committee consisting of repre- sentatives from the League of Women Voters, Chamber of Commerce, Jaycees Mr. Cataldo asked the purpose of the committee. The Chairman said the big thing is finances Mr. Howard said the role of this committee should be a committee of action Mr. Tarbox said, starting with a working committee of five or seven as the needs increased, the committee could be increased if necessary Mr. Kolovson said they are looking for someone to tell them how to proceed; they need guidance at this point The Chairman said this committee would not need any money to start with, and once it had guidance, it would have an idea of the amount of financing needed. Mr. Gray said they should explore with the Urban Renewal Ford Foundation and should find out where they are going to get the money Mr. Adams said the Town Meeting could not be asked to put money into this, this would defeat it at the start. Mr. Cataldo pointed out that only one property owner has been suggested for the committee Mr. Adams said he thought the ball should be carried by the business representatives . If the Chamber of Commerce is willing to put in two or three men who repre- sent good financial backing, that is the key to this. He recommended that they stay away from a committee of elected Town officials. Mr. Cataldo pointed out that the property owners are the ones who will be spending the money. Mr. Howard said what they need is a person willing to devote himself and all his energy in pushing this pro- ject forward Mr. Kolovson suggested a small working committee which does not require money which would be limited in time to three or four months to explore the possibilities, find out where the money would come from, what is being (1 PA 01 done, and then at the Town Meeting, the recommendations could be made by the Selectmen. He said the small com- mittee would be able to devote some time and give a report. He suggested a small committee now and then a committee representing the cess section of the Town whidh would have the power and authority to go to Town Meeting and ask for action The Chairman asked who should appoint this committee Mr Kolovson said when the time comes if this com- mittee has the Town backing, it will have more power and influence The Chairman suggested a basic committee of two from the Chamber of Commerce, one from the Board of Select- men, two property owners and an auxiliary committee of one from the League of Women Voters, one from the Jaycees, one citizen, one from the Capital Expenditures Committee, one from the Planning Board or its Director, and the Board's Executive Assistant. Mr. Rooney asked why the Jaycees would be repre- sented. Mr. Kolovson said five members should be involved on the major committee Mr. Sheldon asked if the Chamber of Commerce wanted the Selectmen to appoint such a committee, and Mr. Kolovson replied in the affirmative. Mr. Moore said the Town has to play a basic part in this and he thought the basic structure should stem from the Board of Selectmen. The Chairman suggested two members from the Chamber of Commerce, two property owners and one Selectmen. Mr Adams sgggested that this committee of five be a steering committee which would determine the number of additional committees or enlarge its own. The Chairman asked if the group wanted the Board to appoint this five-man committee to consist of two from the Chamber of Commerce, two property owners and one Selectmen with the authority to make recommendations and explore the situation. Mr. Howard said he would prefer a member of the Plan- ning Board, Board of Selectmen, property owner, Chamber of Commerce and Historic Districts Commission. Mr. Kolovson asked if Mr. Gray represented the various Boards in Town and the Chairman replied he represents the Boards and groups under the Selectmen's jurisdiction. It was finally agree-d by all present that the Board of Selectmen should appoint a basic committee of five to consist of two members from the Chamber of Commerce, two property owners and one member of the Board of Selectmen. The meeting adjourned at 10 :10 P.M. A true record, Attest: C e l