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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1965-10-18-min 343 SELECTMEN 'S MEETING October 18, 1965 A regular meeting of the Board of Selectmen was held in the Selectmen' s Room, Town Office Building, on Monday, October 18, 1965, at 7 :30 P.M. Chairman Cole, Messrs . Burnell, Cataldo, Sheldon and Mabee were present. Mr. Legro, Town Counsel, Mr. Gray, Executive Assistant, Mr. Carroll, Superintendent of Public Works, and Miss Murray, Executive Clerk, were also present Hearing was declared open upon petition of the Boston Edison Company for permission to locate one pole, guy wire and anchor on Hartwell Road. Notices of the hearing were mailed tothe peti- tioner, owners of property listed on the petitioner 's Pole plan and also filed with the Superintendent of Public location Works . No one was present at the hearing in favor or in opposition. II Mr. Serverson, representing the petitioner, ex- plained the proposed location by use of a plan Mr. Carroll had no objection. Upon motion duly made andseconded, the hearing was declared closed and it was further voted to grant the petition and sign the order for the following pole location Hartwell Avenue, northeasterly side, at Maguire Road, -- One pole, guy wire and anchor Mr. Serverson retired. Mr. Gray submitted a bill in the amount of $275.58 received from C. Harry Erickson for architectural ser- vices covering supervision of thework on the Public Architect 'f Facilities & Information Building bill Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to authorize payment of Mr C. Harry Erickson's bill in the amount of $275.58. Mr. Gray submitted a Certificate for Payment , in the amount of $6,41.95 on project No. 6408, Public Cert. of Facilities and Information Building, contractor Payment F. Chaivarini Construction Company, Inc. 344 c, Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to authorize the Chairman to sign the Certificate, as submitted, for the Town of Lexington. Mr. Gray reported receipt of a letter from Mrs Graham R Easson, 198 Bedford Stre t, asking that Traffic the Board discuss the blind crossing at 240 Bedford Street Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to refer the communication to the Traffic Study Com- mittee. Mr. Gray referred to letter received last week from Salvatore Ferraguto, 145 Laconia Street, listing several questions pertaining to improvements of the street. He reported he talked with Mr. Ferraguto and also took a ride over Laconia Street. In reply to some questions, Mr . Gray advised Mr. Ferraguto that he should probably refer them to his attorney. Mr. Legro advised tha Mr. Ferraguto should refer all the questions to his attorney. Mr. Carroll reported on bids taken for sidewalk Sidewalk construction bid Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to award the contract to Bernard J. Lazard, Inc. , the low bidder, for $19,875. Mr. Carroll reported that xoute 2 construction bids were taken a few weeks ago and DiMatteo was the low bidder. Last week Robert Mead, who owns Mead Bros . Trees from Tree Company, came in. He is bidding as a subcontractor Route 2 on the removal of the trees on the job. Mr. Mead told him there is a fantastic number of trees that have to be removed The State specifications say they can't be burned because of the fact Lexington is just one town removed from the Metropolitan Air Pollution District. He either has to get them off or chip them on the site. He has talked to some owner of private property in Lexington asking for permission to burn the trees and told Mr. Carroll he had permission from Chief Belcastro . Mr. Carroll said the problem is what is to be done about large tree trunks and trees that will be brought up to the dump The Chairman said they would not be burned. Mr . Carroll said this is the question he wants to ask the Board, whether they are tobe burned in the dump or not . The trees do come from Lexington. Mr. Cataldo asked if the Town was legally bound to supply a place to dump these . 345 Mr. Legro replied not that he knew of . He explained the Board maintains a dump for the convenience of the citizens of Lexington and bars people from other towns . Mr. Carroll stated someone other than Mead may get this contract snd want to take all the trees to the dump The small material can be burned He said there will be thousands of trees Mr. Mabee said he could not see where there is any action to be taken. DiMatteo must have taken care of this in his bid . Mr. Carroll said his recommendation to the Board would be to refuse and negotiate from there Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to refuse permission to dump trees taken down in con- nection with the construction of Route 2 in the Sani- tary Land Fill area on Hartwell Avenue . The Chairman said for some time the Town has had a problem. The Town has grown so fast anc the account- Town Ac- ing job has become so great the Board has to find some countant way to make things work. He stated the feeling of the (Comptroller Board of Selectmen and the Appropriation Committee is that there should be an article in the warrant and proper legislation started to have a comptroller as part of the Town government . Mr White, the Town Accountant, work- ing very diligently, is aware that the Board has been advertising for a town accountant and he has agreed to work with whoever is hired. He said ifthe Board goes to a comptroller, it will need someone other than Mr. White for this job and he is agreeable. He said the Board has been advertising and to date has had no results because it has not been able to advertise for a comptroller Mr. Sheldon asked if anything had been done about going through agencies. He said he thought a good man goes via employment agencies Mr. Gray said he advertised in the City Managers ' Newsletter, Replacement Bureau of Northeastern and Boston University Mr. Sheldon said he would give Mr. Gray the name of two good agencies . If a man is hired, an obligation is incurred but the list will not cost anything. He said if he wanted to hire a man, the last thing he would do would be to ptt an ad in the paper because high-grade people don't look in newspapers for jobs; they go through high-grade agencies . He asked if the Board would rather have a top man without municipal background, or a second- rate man with excellent municipal background 346 Ct Mr. Burnell said there is the question of salary. The Chairman stated the Board can 't pay the first three months next year any more than it has paid the last three months of this year Mr. Mabee said an adjustment can always be made for at least nine months Mr. Burnell said ifthe Board is going to hire the man it wants, he is going to be a comptroller and the charter hes to be changed. He said the Board should start at the beginning and take care of this first He said the Board could get the man it wants and will have to pay the going price, which is certainly more than $8,000. Mr. Sheldon mentioned the possibility of hiring a man as comptroller without the title, with the under- standing that he would be a comptroller . Mr. Burnell said this has to be taken to Town Meeting. Mr Cataldo said if the Board can get the man it wants, and give him what he wants, he did not think it would make any difference what the Board calls him. Mr . Cataldo said the Board should go to the legis- lature right away, but it should not wait to hire a man, and if the Board was able to get a good man, he did not think the individual would care what the Board calls him. The Chairman seriously doubted if he could succeed in getting the required legislation through this session but said he would make every effort. Mr Cataldo said he thought the Board should let the Chairman take care of this . The Chairman read Chapter 57 of the Acts of 1965 - An Act establishing the office of comptroller in the Town of Winchester. Mr. Mabee asked what the difference was between this and what the Town now has . Mr. Legro advised it has control of many of the Boards . Mr. Blaisdell, of the Appropriation Committee, said this would interfere very definitely with the School De- partment and he thought possibly it should be discussed with the School Committee or at lest called to its attention. He said the School Department spends over half the money. It is doing bookkeeping there and it is being duplicated here Mr. Mabee asked if this made sense and if :Mr. Blaisdell agreed with the specific wording Mr. Blaisdell replied as far as he was concerned, yes. Mr. Mabee suggested that, before the Chairman does anything, perhaps the Board should talk to other people involved who will be affected by this. The Chairman stated if the Board wastes time - he thought this Act made a lot of sense and just what is needed 347 Mr. Mabee asked if the Board would have a better chance putting this through by getting everyone involved now. The Chairman said he would have a copy of the Act made up and sent to the School Committee and tell the committee he intends to file this Act, and he would proceed to file it . It was agreed that the Chairman would send a copy of the Act to the School Committee and at the same time, file a copy of the bill Mr. Mabee asked what about the idea of a comptroller The Chairman said he would entertain a motion from any member of the Board that the Town create the position of comptroller and when the position is created shall hire someone to fill the position. It shall be substantially as the Act read this evening, a copy of which shall be on file, and until the Act is passed and the position created, an individual shall be hired to perform substan- tially the same duties as a comptroller Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to create the position of comptroller Mr. Legro advised that if this bill is passed before Town Meeting, the Board has an Act which can be accepted If it is delayed, the Board may want to have something in the warrant for the Annual Town Meeting, a vote of the Town to validate the action of the Town Meeting. Mr. Douglas T. Ross, 33 Dawes Road, met with the Board and said he did not know if the Board would like a summary of the memo he sent in a year ago relative to an even exchange of land . He said nh.en he first looked for land in Lexington, there was a lot at the end of Hawes Road which had a hill on it . Mr. Couette had been holding that lot for five years with a view toward finding a builder to bulldoze and make three house lots. Before he went to see Mr. Couette , he checked with the D'Arrigos and Hunts and found that they would be interested in realigning land in back of their properties He arranced to add almost an acre to his lot. He tried to adjust the land but Mr Couette was then in the medium of negotiations and the sale went through as it was . Later he reopened the question, and the Town working with Attorneys for the Tower estate arranged to purchase the remaining parcel. At the time, he inquired about rearranging the line when the Town purchased the land so he could purchase the land from him. The Town was having the land surveyed and it sas suggested that this be done as an exchange later He said the land exchange had the verbal approval of Mr. Snow, then Planning Director, but there were some questions at that time whether it would leave sufficient access to the c.� 0.-348cr Town land. He resubmitted this after the Town sewer went through. He said he believed the question of the Board was a diff-rence in value between the two portions of land and Mr . Gray asked him what price he was willing to pay He said he had no idea and decided to wait until later . He said he would like to pursue further what , if any, monetary exchange e would be appropriate, as he is still interested The Chairman said Mr . Ross did offer an even land exchange originally and asked if he was prepared at this time to make an offer, a certain amount of cash. Mr. Ross replied originally he thought the land would be the same use and he would not build on it as it is not a building parcel of land . He did notice in the paper when the Conservation Commission purchased land, prime land was valued at $3,000 an acre and unbuildable land was $800 or $900 different . The amount he is talking about is one fifth of an acre and his feeling was it might be appropri- ate that if the Board took one fifth of the going rate for the prime land and bad land, it would be acceptable ; $100 or $150. He submitted a plan and said he would be willing to consider something less than $200 which he .could pay for the exchange . The Chairman asked if the Planning Board had any ob- jection last year when this was brought up and Mr. Cataldo replied in the negative . The Chairman said the Board would make a further check with the Planning Board to see if it has any objection at this time, and for the moment the Board would take the subject under advisement and Mr. Ross would hear from it later The Chairman asked Mr. Gray to obtain the Planning Board 's opinion in writing and asked Mr. Ross to submit a formal offer to the Board . Mr. Ross retired at 8:31 P.M. Mr. Aiden L. Ripley and Mr. Wilbur Jaquith met with .#572 Massa- the Board with further reference to the house at 572 chusetts Massachusetts Avenue Avenue Mr. Ripley stated he had a rough outline, in the form of a lease, he would like to present to the Board. Mr.Jaquith presented a copy to Mr .Legro, Town Counsel, and also to the members of the Boar . The Board and Town Counsel took the time to read the outline entitled "#572 Massachuset ,.s Avenue . Memorandum On Proposed Lease Of Premiss to Mr . McGirr For Renovation And Occupahcy". Mr. Jaquith explained this is an attempt to set forth possible terms of a lea e , if there is going to be one, for bhetpurpose of discussion and for advice from Town Counsel as to how far the Board can go. He said he would admit 349 to being the author of the draft which tries to protect the Town as well as Iver. McGirr. Mr. Sheldon said he thought it was important to know whether the proposed tenant had seen this and if he is agreeable to su;h a document Mr. Ripley stated Mr. McGirr had read this and he is substantially ready, in agreement on everything in this lease . He did say he realized this is a rough draft and has to have more work done on it He was not asked to sign anything but thought itcould be brought into shape where he would sign it Mr. Sheldon asked if Mr . McGirr realized fully that it includes items that could force him out in six months-,-- a ) if the road went in and b ) if the Town wanted the property Mr. Ripley said Mr McGirr is the only person inter- ested who has an advantage like he has because he has land onto which he could move the house and the minute the road was built, he would havefrontage on Emerson Road. The Chairman explained what disturbed him was when this st rted he understood the house would be moved out of there. Now the Board is in the position where the house will be moved on condition of finishing Emerson Road. He said Town Counsel has only had time to give this a cursory glance. Mr Legro said he had no comment to make at this point Mr Cataldo asked how much Mr . Ripley was talking about for land Mr. Ripley replied he talked to Mr. Cronin this morning and he said the best thing he could do was to take another similar piece of property nearby and cited the house that did belong to Wilson, the grey house with white trim located at the corner of rleaseant Street. The taxes are $600 today He asked Mr. Cronin if he thought , considering the difference in the property, etc . , a fair guess would be something like $14.00 and he thought it would probably be in that neighborhood. The Chairman said before the Board would take any action on this, it would want some comment from Town Counsel and would like Town Counsel to have time to look at it Mr Sheldon said the Board ha to know two things . Mr. McGirr has to be willing to accept it and Town Counsel has to advise the Board it can be done . Mr. Legro advised that the Board should decide whether it wants to do it before any substantial amount of work is done on this Mr. Sheldon said the Board needs to know if this, or something similar to it, can be done He said he, for one, would like to pursue this 350 Mr. Cataldo asked if Mr. Ripley had given up on moving the house Mr. Ripley replied he has not tried to work in more than one direction at one time Mr. Cataldo asked if this was Mr. Ripley's last approach, and he replied he was not sure . He said he could see no harm in the house remaining where it is until Town Meeting Mr. Jaquith poJnted out the fact to make this lease final would require about twenty ,hours of work Mr. Mabee ststed if Mr. McGirr does not agree to the substance of this lease, it seemed to him the Board is wasting its time Mr . Cataldo said he couldnot see putting the Town in this position. He said if the house is to be moved once and for all, that was different . He felt the Board would be leaving the Town open to leasing other properties for the betterment of other properties in question. He said he could not see Town Counsel being required to spend twenty or thirty hours on this and there should be a concrete proposal which either Mr . McGirr accepts or does not accept. Mr. Mabee agreed, and said the legal expense should be borne by the man who is going to lease the house andthe Board should determine the amount of the cost . He said it would take hours to draw this up because it is something the Town has never had to do before The easiest way would be to sell the house or tear it down. Mr. Legro said very often he is asked to prepare instruments but he always refuses because he can't be paid for anything thathe does for the Town by anyone else . The Chairman asked if the Board would go along with the lease if Town Counsel found the whole thing to be feasible . Mr. Legro asked if the Board was asking if this could be done or if it is feasible . The Chairman replied, can it be done and if it is feasible: . Mr. Jaquith said he wouod not want to spend twenty or ten hours . The Chairman asked how much time Mr. Legro would have to spend, and he replied he had no idea. Mr. Jaquith informed theBoard he had spent five hours on the draft . Mr. Cataldo asked Mr. Jaquith what was being done on the extension of the Historic Districts . Mr. Jaquith replied the committee would be ready for the Town Meeting. Messrs . Ripley and Jaquith retired at 9:05 P.M. 351 Mr. Burnell said he would like th tell the Board the Traffic Study Committee is meeting once a week. Fridays, at 11:00 As a result of this Friday's meeting, the Com. ittee has several ideas that will come before Traffic the Board for it to vote on. The Committee would like the Board 's opinion on the parking area between Muzzey Street and Waltham Street which is one-way out into Muzzey Street. He said it seems obvious that this should be two ways from Muzzey Street and this is what the committee proposes . It would mean relining the parking areas on both sides of the exit, but this would not be very costly. He said if the Board approved, the committee will go ahead with a letter to the State Mr Sheldon asked if the committee was unaimously in favor and Mr. Burnell replied in the affirmative. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to concur with the committee. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant a Common Victualler license to Arthur M. Zeitler, Comm. Viet 145 Audubon Road, Milton, now the owner of the Village license Variety Store at 93 Massachusett-' Avenue . Mr. William M. Curran's letters, requesting $100 for taking of 519 square feet at the corner of Cliffe Avenue and Melrose Avenue, was held over Mr . Legro asked for a copy of the letter and said he would see that the necessary release is obtained The Chairman read a letter from Alvin Fiering, 66 Munroe Road,registering complaint in regard to the sewer and drain easement through his property. Fiering Mr Carroll said his feeling is the Town has im- complaint proved the property substantially and should do nothing more . He said he looked at it today. He said a taking had been made and he thought this should be referred to Town Counsel He said he looked at the property, it came out very well, and he does not think the Town should spend any more money on it . It was agreed to advise Mr. Fiering that in the opinion of the Board, the property h, s been left in an improved condition and it does not intend to do anything further The Chairman read a letter from Sam G. Countanis, written on behalf of Dr. and Mrs. Varant Hagopian, 3 Bryant Road, requesting permission to connect a drain Drain into the Town catch basin. Ci 352 Cr et 3c2- Mr . Carroll said he checked this today and Dr. Hagopian should give the Town a plan, made by an engi- neer, showing the location and details of the drain connection. The Chairman said he would advise Mr Gountanis that a plan, as requested by Mr Car oll, should be submitted. Further consideration was given to request from Mystic Valley Gas Company 's request to open Massa- chusetts Avenue to serve the building at #465. Gas Mr. Cataldo recalled the time tie company requested company permission to open Blake Road and said the Board at that time did grant permission with the understanding this situation, of opening a newly constructed street, would never happen again. He said if it meant a loss of $3,000 or $4,000, he would look on this differently, but the most involved is $300 and he could not see opening the street . Mr. Burnell said it seemed to him it was going to be difficult to -enforce the rule the Board made Mr. Carroll pointed out , with reference to Blake Road, that the company knew of this well in advance. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted that the request be denied. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it waa voted Use of hall to grant the Board of Health permission to use Estabrook Hall on October 28, 1965 for an open meeting of the Senior Citizens ' Council Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted Licenses to grant a Taxi Driver license to Frederick M Muller, Jr . 29 Anna Road, Woburn, satisfactory character reference having been received from Chief Corr. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant a Taxi Driver license to William S. Reilly, 905 Main Street, Woburn, satisfactory character reference having been received from Chief Corr. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted Minutes to approve the minutes of the Selectmen 's Meeting held on October 11, 1965. Mr. James A. Ingalls, 1 Burnham Road, William L. Nelson and Mrs . Wein, 6 Burnham Road, met with the Board . Mr. Ingalls saidhe would like to set forth their case from the point of view of background and recommendation. He said he also had two residents of Burnham Road, Mrs . Wein and Mr. Nelson. He said on April 26, 1965, Mr . Nelson, 353 II Mr. Samuels and he attended a meeting which set forth the situation that exists there , a pumping station and gravity sewer amounting to about $100,000 He also referred to the minutes ofMay 10, 1965 and a statement made by Mr Sheldon, had the TGwn had a ruling that clay is not an acceptable soil for this type of system, the problem of Burnham Farms would not exist. He then referred to the minutes of the meeting on September 13, 1965, at which time Mr Carroll recommended that the Board consider putting in the trunk sewer and force main in these areas and tell the people they would have to wait until 1967 for the laterals Also in these minutes, Mr Carroll referred tothe installation of sewer to serve Burnham Farms and The Adams Estates ' area and reported the cost for putting in a pumping station, force main and trunk sewer would be around $140,000; to serve the Burnham Berms and Adams Estates ' areas with laterals would be approximately $400,000 taking every street in the area He said that was so much for the background. The sug- gestion they are setting forth at the present time is the force main and trunk sewer is a cost of $140,000. He said there does exist in the Burnham Farm and Adams Estate areas a condition different than Burnham Road and Brown Road . In the former, there is a soil situation that is different than Burnham Farms . Burnham Farms has clay I Burnham Road and Brown Road have a serious problem. He has contacted about 65 or 70 people. About 50 have signed a petition expressing their interest The reason for the survey was to determine how serious the situation is The people are apprehensive in general . He said in the Burnham Road and Brown Road areas, the situation is bad because of the clay which was brought out by Mr Sheldon in his statement of the meeting of May 10. He said he would like to say, as a recommendation, that there be something done relative to the matter of installing laterals in the Burnham Road and Brown Road areas in 1966 . He stated there are approximately one dozen homes in Burnham Road and Brown Road areas, and, hardly without an exception, these people live in very limited and stringent conditions . He said he would submit to the Board that it consider installing laterals in these two specific roads during the year 1966. Mr. Nelson stated he is the only home owner on Burnham Road with two leach beds. His leach bed will come off the septic and go the other way He said he would take the clay out andbring in gravel, but then he can't leach any more. He said there are dogs running through the sewage He has been there for eight years, is not gegging, and will pay for this . He said they cannot I leach Burnham Road and Brown Road, but were not trying to 354 give anyone a difficult time. He said he has three ' baths and takes showers The people are getting incensed Mrs Wein referred to her downstairs bathroom and said her child sleeps downstairs . If someone uses the bathroom upstairs, he comes up and tells her, it 's up When the ground thaws , she can't wash clothes and the children cannot shower as eften as she would like them to The Chairman said he knew Mr. Nelson was familiar with municipal problems Mr. Nelson said they were just asking The Chairman stated there are many areas in the same position. He pointed out thereis another area just as long on systems as these people and they are not even going to get the trunk sewer this year He explained the funs are limited and the Board has to work within the amount it has available for these things He said the Board had tentatively stated it would consider the trunk sewer for this year 's budget and the laterals the following year. However, if the Board wanted to change its position, that was up to the Board. He said the Board sympathized with these people and their problems, but it has to sympathize with many people. Mr. Nelson said Burnham Farms was built ii three sections. One section is eight years old and the other two maybe half that . He asked if there was any way section one could come onto the pumping station first Mr. Carroll stated the chances are it would be almost impossible to put the laterals in next year. Mr. Ingalls said this is something that might be determined, and that is the cost of the laterals. He asked what the cost would install one dozen laterals to serve Burnham road and Brown Road . He asked what it would cost to install one dozen laterals in Burnham Road and Brown Road in 1966 . He said he would think it would not cost more than about $25,000 or so. The Chairman said the question of cost is mute . Mr. Carroll stated the word lateral means the sewer main that runs up the middle of the street. They are talking a pumping station, force main and trunk sewer He explained the sewer is not even onto the street for that money. The $4.00,000 referred to the sewer laterals that will run up the various streets in the area. Mr. Ingalls asked what it would cost to have Burnham Road and Brown Road done. Mr. Carroll stated that is not the issue . In terms of actual time--this year he had contracts for sewer mains, or laterals, whichever they wanted to call them for $200,000. The engineering work was done before Town Meeting. Shortly after Town Meeting, contracts were ' awarded One cont actor is through and the other won't 355 IIbe through until next spring . He said next year if he has $250,000 for trunks and $250,000 for mains up the streets , it is very unlikely the work will be completed. He said if the money were available, they would probably have to wait until 1967 anyway The Chairman said Burnham Farms in toto would not get sewers all in one year. He explained $250,000 is set up for trunk sewers and $250,000 for laterals to keep the system expanding. He explained the Board obtains recommendations from the Board of Health and Superintendent of Public Works and considers all the areas in light of the problem and in light of time the development has been in existence . Mr. Ingalls, with reference tothe statement in the minutes of April "tell the people they will have to wait until 1967 for the laterals", said apparently "people" was not to be construed all the people in the Burnham Farm and Adams Estates ' areas The Chairman said it means the people in most need Mr . Nelson asked if the pumping station could be used immediately after it was put in Mr. Carroll explained that this whole area will come down to a point near Vine Brook, and this pumping station will have to pump into the gravity system Then there is the skeleton over which the rest of the body of the system can be built . Mr Nelson asked if they have the pumping station, then if the Town wants to connect a certain area, could this be done . Mr. Carroll replied there is a pumping station, force main and pumping station. Then a line could be run the following year Mr. Nelson said they would not have to wait for fifteen or twenty years and Mr. Carroll said they would not. The Chairman said some parts of the Burnham Farms would get laterals in the following year, but not all of them. Mr. Nelson stated he was trying to get some idea and he knew what Town Meetings can do . He would just like to know they are going to get something The Chairman said he believed Mr . Carroll had ex- plained this to Mr. Ingalls . Mr. Ingalls stated Mr Carroll did inform him but he said he would like to bring it up here . He said the Board feels 1966 is quite improbable . He said he would put it this wey, Burnham Road and Brown Road would get priority treatment 5 Ok efi c' The Chairman said the Board takes all the areas in Town and considers the problems, how bad the problem is, and the length of time the development has been in existence . Mr . Carroll said if the Board does construct the force main and pumping station in the area, it would be inclined to put the laterals in the area th& follow- ing year . Once the trunk sewer is in the area, the possibility of getting the sewer is greater. Mrs. Wein asked if the Board thought this would come into effect in 1967 . Mr. Carroll said he would say yes . The Chairman said he believed this was the same assurance Mr 6arroll gave Mr. Ingalls over thetelephone . Mr. Ingalls said he still thought his case of taking a certain amount out in 1966 was a good one. He said he thought the matter of putting effort into that area of servicing a dozen or so homes in Burnham and Brown Roads has merit and it is at that point thathe and Mr. Carroll disagree . The group retired at 9:58 P.M. Upon motion du , y made and seconded, it was voted to go into Executive Session for the :purpose of dis- cussing , deliberating or voting on matters which, if Executive made public, might adversely affect the public security, Session the financial interest of the Town, or the reputation of any person. Following discussion of a legal nature with Town Counsel, it was voted to resume the open meeting . Messrs .Legro and Carroll retired at 10 :18 P.M. Mr. Gray and Miss Murray left the meeting at 10 :30 P.M. A true record , Attest : cgtive lerk7 Selectrn 1