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S1 TF;CTMEN'S MEETING
March 30, 1967
A special meeting of the Board of Selectmen was
held in the Selectmen ' s Room, Town Office Building,
on Thursday, March 30, 1967, at 7:00 P.M. Chairman
Cole, Messrs. Burnell , Cataldo, Mabee and Kenney were
present Mr. Gray, Executive Assistant, Mr. Carroll,
Superintendent of Public Tdofks, and Miss Murray, Execu-
tive Clerk, were also present Mr. Legro, Town Counsel,
arrived at the meeting at 7:30 P.M.
Chairman Parrish, Messrs. Grant , Gary, Blaisdell,
Kolovson and Mrs . Souza of the Appropriation Committee,
and Mr. Chapin, Capital Expenditures Committee, met with
the Board .
The Chairman referred to the article covering the
acquisition of the New Amsterdam property and stated
the Board was going to appooach it on eminent domain New
He reported the title search has not been completed yet Amsterdam
and Town Counsel has stated there is a possibility they land
may not own all of it so the Board could not follow that
procedure He said the price of the land is $2300 an
acre.
Mr. Parrish said the option was $2200.
The Chairman explained they are bringing in the
interest and taxes. He said the Board has not reached
any agreement yet and Town Counsel has to make them one
final offer in connection with getting Federal funds.
He said when it comes to Kingston Homes, which it is
agreed to take at $4,000 an acre it will not help on
the other one .
Mr. Grant stated one case cannot be put in evidence,
but it may make it more difficult to negotiate.
Mr . Cataldo said if the Board agrees to pay $4,000
an acre; it is a willing buyer and a willing seller and
if the Board votes to buy Kingston Homes at $4,000 an
acre without taking it, this is the problem.
The Chairman asked, if this Town Meeting agrees to
take Kingston Homes at $4,000 an acre, what reflection
would this be on the New Amsterdam property.
Mr. Parrish said up to a given moment they are
willing to settle for $2300 and have publicly said so.
The Chairman said the option has run out .
Mr. Cataldo said he was concerned with the value
being set from here on.
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Mr. Parrish said the Kingston land is half under
water, and, in his opinion, it is not a better piece
of land than the New Amsterdam land .
Mr. Parrish said he thought, as a committee, it
would give this some serious thought. He said the com-
mittee was hopeful that by this time the eminent domain
proceedings on the Pihl land would be started and the
New Amsterdam land would be in the fold.
Mr. Cataldo said the basis of decision should be
what this type of land is worth to the Town.
Mr. Parrish asked if the appraisal the Conservation
Commission had for this land is $1.,000.
The Chairman stated they can say they have an ap-
praisal to justify this figure .
Mr. Parrish said his committee would consider this
seriously.
Mr. Mabee reported the Board is going to recommend
indefinite postponement on the Lloyd land . He submitted
Lloyd land a plan and explained a section of the property not covered
by the article and stated even though the Board went ahead
Lloyd would not sell it because it would land lock the back.
Mr Lloyd has said he would give the Board an option for
any time in the .future. He said they were talking about
next March, and at that time , the land will be surveyed
and properly described. He said a much more favorable
arrangement was going to be made as to terms with Lloyd
next year which might cost a little more. If the Board
agrees on the price, Mr. Lloyd will give an option for
$1.00.
The Chairman referred to 4hipple Hill and said there
are those who would like to take it regardless of how
Whipple much it costs . He said he thought a majority of the
Hill Board feels it is overpriced, and it has an appraisal
considerably less.
Mr. Parrish said the number the Appropriation Com-
mittee came up with appears to be half way between the
two appraisals or somewhere near that , and there is some
thought the committee would just leave it that way. He said
the other thought is , the Town is not going to buy this
no matter what it offers; just put in enough to take care
of whatever the lowest appraisal is . He said the penalty
there is, as he understood it, the reimbursement appli-
cation has to but in at this and the Town cannot refile
for reimbursement. This would result in some penalty
to the Town. He said this is information received
from Mr. Sussman.
Mr. Cataldo said he would rather hear from Town
Counsel on this.
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The Chairman said the Appropriation Committee is
looking for postponable articles, and to his thinking
this is as postponable as anything. It is not going sly-
where this year.
Mr. Parrish said that school of thought had been re-
jected before. This is land the Town has been talking
about for five years.
The Chairman said he did feel services in the Town
had been cut and then the committee recommends something
like this.
Mr. Parrish said this is why the committee was will-
ing to bond.
Mr. Cataldo said the same approach could have been
made on the sewer; the committee cuts $50,000 off the
sewer which was bonding.
Mr. Parrish said the lateral sewers were bonded in
lieu of land.
Mr. Cataldo said if the $50,000 were kept in the
sewer, it would have been bonded.
Mr. Parrish said a good portion of that bond was in
lieu of purchase of land.
Mr. Cataldo said $275,000 was for land, but the extra
$50,000 would have been bonded for sewers.
Mr. Grant said if the Town is going to acquire land,
it should be good-sized parcels.
The Chairman asked if the committee felt Whipple Hill
was going anywhere this year.
Mr. Gmy replied in the negative.
Mr. Parrish said it might go up in price.
Mr. Mabee said the thinking of the Board at one time
was it preferred the Lloyd land to the Whipple land and
the Appropriation Committee was reversed. He said he
subscribed to that, but now the Lloyd land is going to
be indefinitely postponed and he thought the Town should
buy land each year and he would support Whipple Hill now.
The Chairman said the idea of buying open land is
to keep it open. If the committee is convinced that
Whipple Hill is not going anywhere this year, it will still
be open land and will still be in the same state next year.
He asked why this could not be postponed.
Mr. Grant said next year there would be the Lloyd
land and the Whipple Hill land.
Mr. Kenney said he thought this is a gcod year to
get the Whipple Hill.
The Chairman said there is a legitimate concern
with the tax rate this year.
Mr. Parrish said this would be bonded. He said
the committee' s plan, as of the moment, is to proceed
on the Whipple Hill article as its report states.
Mr. Cataldo said he could see the committee wanting
to take Whipple Hill, but not for the amount of money it
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has. He said the lowest appraisal should be the outside
figure.
Mr. Kenney asked if the committee would support that.
Mr. Parrish said the committee would take a vote on it
and he thought there would be no reason to put more money
in the article than is needed to take it.
Mr. Parrish said Mr. Sussman believes that in the
filing of an application with the Federal government,
if the land is taken by eminent domain, the maximum
amount that can be filed is the amount the Town originally
agreed to pay. If the court decides a higher or lower
number, the Town cannot refile.
Mr. Legro said he had not seen that . Most of these
matters are handled entirely by the Conservation Commission.
He said he had not seen anything to that effect.
The Chairman said it does not mean it isn't so.
Mr. Cataldo referred to Article 63, and said he under-
stood the Appropriation Committee was supporting this
Article.
Mr. Parrish said he thought, equivocally and unalter-
ably the committee was opposed because this, in its opinion,
is another step in the speep-up of construction of Worthen
Road which is not necessary and not worthwhile. The com-
mittee finds no reason to do it.
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Mr. Parrish said the Conservation Commission is going
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to ask for more than the $2,000 the committee has approved
Conser- for its fund. He said he understood it will ask for
nation either $5,000 or $10,000. He explained appraisal money
funds is now being put in each article.
The Chairman said that is the best argument for de-
creasing it . te said he thought the Board is with the
committee on the $2,000.00.
Mr. Cataldo referred to Article 63 and said he thought
it would be in the best interest of Worthen Road to postpone
Article 64. He suggested taking up Article 64 first, move
indefinite postponement, and then take up Article 63.
The Board and Committee appeared to agree with Mr.
Cataldo' s suggestion.
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted
to adjourn at 7:40 P, M.
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