HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-05-19-BOS-min SELECTMEN'S MEETING
MAY 19, 1980 1
A regular meeting of the Board of Selectmen was held in the Selectmen's
Meeting Room, Town Office Building, on Monday, May 19, 1980 at 7 30 p m
Chairman Miley, Mr Busa, Mrs Battin, Mr Kent and Mr Crain (8:O3•p.m.)
Mrd Hutchinson, Totan_Managei Mr.? Cohen, Town Counsel; Mrs McCurdy,
Executive Clerk, were present
Valley Mr. anddKrs.. Casey of 22 Valley Road and residents of Valley Road
Road met with the Board to discuss the properties abutting a brook in the area.
Brook Mr David Williams, Chairman of the Conservation Commission, was present
Mr Hutchinson said that the issue has been raised by the neighbors
that they have been having an erosion problem caused by the brook He
and Town Counsel had reviewed it last year and looking at the advice
that we had, it appears that erosion is going to take place It has
been attributed to development The town has spent considerable money
in that area and he had sent a letter to Mrs Casey suggesting that the
neighbors pool their own resources for engineering advice We have this
problem along a number of brooks We have no provisions in our capital
budget for remedying the situation; it would be expensive and would take
appropriate engineering expertise to look at the problem We are in-
volved in a drainage study and are in the process of selecting a consultant
Between town forces and consulting services, that could be available at a
price
Mr Williams said that as the brook comes through conservation land,
the land is flat From Revere Street to 128 there is a pitch and the
velocity caused by the pitch causes the problem. When the pond is en-
larged on conservation land this summer, it may hold back some of the
water
The residents had comments Mr Casey said that he likes to use the
backland for a garden and he has had to have the bridge over the brook
fixed many times Mr Zimmerman said that the brook has been widened
almost double because of erosion A woman said that ten years ago erosion
was occurring and the town felt it was responsible and came out and did
the work
Mr Busa said that this goes back to 1971 and the former Town Manager
and DPW Commissioner showed that it was part of a town problem. From his
knowledge, it is part of the town's responsibility because of development
which was a town project in back of Lexington Lumber Company He did not
feel that it is fully the responsibility of the neighborhood and his
advice is to block it off This has been going on since 1969 and some
assurance was given by Town Counsel that the responsibility lies with
the town
Mr Zimmerman, 28 Valley Road, said that the brook is part of the
town's drainage system and there are many other pipes coming in. In
10 to 15 years because of development, all the water that was formerly
trapped now comes down and causes erosion; there is increased run-off
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Mrs Battin said that she would like to know what other areas we
have problems with brooks
Mr Kent said that he would like to see this general subject ad-
dressed as part of that drainage study, and would like as much informa-
tion as possible Mrs. Bat tin agreed
Chairman Miley asked Mr Williams if he had recommendations from a
conservation standpoint to help the neighbors' point of view
Mr Williams said that he did not However, iherdasingsth.g size
of the pond will hold back the water during the peak periods of ground
water but on the deep slopes, erosion always occurs by just nature
There is a pond on the Tropeano land and Conservation has plans to
double the size of the pond. Mr Busa asked if a dam could be con-
structed to hold back the Water? Mr Williams said the pond itself
will hold that water He was there two weeks ago during the worst
rain storm we had this spring and that whole stretch from Brigham Road
to Revere Street was very placid because it is very flat It is only
when it starts going downhill that it increases the velocity and picks
up all the speed that causes the erosion It is more the speed than
the water that is causing the erosion because it is going downhill at
such a great extent Mr Busa said he understood that part of the en-
gineering problem The point is, if you dam it then you can only let
out a certain amount of water at a time on a smaller field, and then
you won't get the erosion that you would have now Mr Williams said
that Conservation will consider it in the design of the pond; we will
look into that
Mr Crain said that it is important not to give false hope to the
people who are here but if we intend to get costs we should define for
the Manager the rinds of costs, the parameters and extent of costs re-
lated to this one section that we are talking about
Mr Hutchinson said that he would obtain that information Mr Busa,
as your representative, is working with me and others on the drainage
consultant interviews which are scheduled to take place within the next
couple of weeks We can talk with them prilvattly to look at the parameters
of the study and find out what is involved On the public policy question,
there is a legitimate issue here that at the same time we will be enhancing
private property when we go to do work like this
Mr Hutchinson is to report back to the Board on June 9 or June 23
Chairman Miley informed the residents that the Board members are
very much aware of the problem and perhaps we could all come to a con-
clusion together When we have something to report, we will let you know
The Valley Road residents retired from the meeting
Mr Laing and Mr Weiner of the State DPW District #4 met with the Min.Man
Board Mr Laing said that the Board had written a letter in February School -
to the Central Transportation Planning Staff for traffic relief on Route Rte 2A
2A from Route 128 to the Mass Avenue extension, and this is an ongoing State DPW
problem that goes back to the actual site plan of the school itself We
were involved in this on the site plan for the school and at that time
it was felt that the reconstruction of Route 2 would materialize and as a
result the footprint of the building was adjusted to accommodate the re-
construction of Route 2 with a driveway from the school itself on a
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temporary basis to the junction of Route 2A adjacent to the Mass Avenue
extension The School Building Committee did the studying of this to
determine what type of traffic controls were needed and it was determined
at the time that a full set of traffic signals would solve any problems
that would develop as a result of the traffic generated by the school
Unfortunately, it did not solve the problem and we have had meetings over
the last five years DPW was reluctant to accept the signals as it would
then become our responsibility,and we could see there was a problem In
the last year or two, the school did add another entrance to the back sec-
tion and whether this has relieved the problem at that intersection did
not know as they have not met with representatives of the town for the
last two years The last meeting we had was with the Traffic..Committee
and it was thought that possibly the abutters to the roadway- and we
all know that the problem is the width of the roadway just will not accom-
modate the traffic - namely the Honeywell Corporation, Spaulding & Slye,
and the Motor Inn, would participate in a traffic study to determine what
should be the corrective measures that should be taken. We could program
this as a project, the only problem being we have so many projects ahead
of it that it would be many years before it would be in the designing
stages We encourage municipalities that are really interested in correct-
ing problems that they participate at least in the designing stage, as once
the design is completed, to go to construction through funding that we have
Chairman Miley asked if he had contacted Honeywell, etc ?
Mr Laing said the last meeting we had was with Honeywell, Spaulding
and Slye, and the business on the corner of the vacant lot, and they were
receptive to that not only to relieve all traffic traveling through there
but particularly to the abutters Honeywell has to have a full time officer
out there every morning
Chairman Miley said so you really don't have anything new for us at all
Mr Laing said no This comes up every year or so
Chairman Miley said we have been working with the school and Mr Jackson,
our representative, has been in communication with us and we told him and the
School Superintendent that the only solution for us would be the Department
of Public Works So that is why Mr Hutchinson wrote to you and we were
hoping that something was in the works
Mrs Battin said she would like to clarify that the bottleneck is the
actual design and if we wait for you to do it, it will be years
Mr Laing said perhaps more years that you,_have already waited
Mrs Battin said if we somehow with the abutters, the town, and con-
ceivably Lincoln and Concord, if somehow we can get the design done, the
actual work then would proceed?
Mr Laing said there is a very good possibility he could not give a
positive answer this evening When these projects are ready for advertising,
the funds are available at that time; then the project will be advertised,
and awarded, and constructed We never make a commitment in advance that
we will reserve any funds for any of those types of projects; you can
program them and in the past from experience, when they reach the stage
of advertising, funds have always been there
Mrs Battin said in getting the design done, would you go along with
whatever the design engineer came up with?
Mr Laing said not necessarily; the state plus the federal highway
which participated in 75 percent of the funding of this project would re111
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view it on a conceptual stage, which is 25 percent; we would review it again
at the 75 percent and finally at the 100 percent stage So there are three
separate reviews plus a public hearing on this So, no matter what you come
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up with, if you come up with a very elaborate design, it is not likely that
the agencies would approve it; but with usually two or three conceptual de-
signs i e. widening to four lanes or just making a left hand storage, it
would depend on how the traffic is today and what is anticipated.
Mrs Battin asked how long does the review process take if we are
going through the design process?
Mr Laing said it usually takes about a year; in other words, from
the very beginning when the design consultant comes on board, by the time
he submits a conceptual plan and it goes through various agencies within
our department and the federal highway, comes back again with a public
hearing and then proceeds to the 75 percent We did have a 50 ft layout
within that area.
Mr Weiner said that is correct The layout, in other words the property
that is dedicated for highway purposes, is 50 ft wide The present roadway
is 24 ft , so there is some room for limited widening but not enough for
four full lanes there; some lanes-taking would have to be made
Mr Crain asked where would one go for the alternative resources to do
a design like this?
Mr Laing said if you have gone through the proper procedure, in other
words it has reached our department, the next step is to go to the Project
Review Committee
Mr Crain said his question is because of what you have illustrated
is the bottleneck; if we could do design work rather than wait for it to
become a top priority in your group, where would one go?
II/ Mr Laing said you either go in-house, your own engineering staff,
or you would engage a consultant, preferably one that has had prior approval
of the department as far as any review committee
Mr Crain said if one takes that course and it became approved, and if
highway funds were there, would we be reimbursed for what we had incurred at
that stage?
Mr Laing said usually the procedure3 that municipalities follow through
is, with a general idea of what they are looking for and an approximate idea
of cost, and the Project Committee will approve it subject to availability of
funds and the community doing the design work. That seems to be the stumbling
block - any community that we have dealt with that is willing to do the design-
ing moves more rapidly
Mr Jackson asked what Peter Murphy's department (CTPS) been doing on
this?
Mr Weiner said he wasn't sure; he knew they have been involved in a
study of the Northwest Corridor, which takes in the whole segment between
Route 2 and Route 3 and that area does fall in there All they determined
is that this particular problem merits further study; that was the conclu-
sion
Mr Busa said seeing that the Commonwealth is involved in the layout
and the footprint of the Minuteman School, what is the disposition of Route 2?
Where does that lie?
Mr Laing said we were indirectly involved; it was led to believe that
Route 2 would be constructed and as a result the footprint of the school was
oriented to accommodate that Then, there was a period of "no build" de-
' termination made and it is his understanding that that study has been re-
activated and is actively being pursued - but he was not aware of where
it stands today
Mr Busa said then there could be a possibility that Route 2 could be
instructed before we finish our study
Mr Laing said he wouldn't go so far as saying that, because by the
time we study something Route 2, they have done a lot of environmental
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study and there were at the point where they were getting to the conceptual
plan as to which of the alternatives — that is where it stopped; but if is
necessary to go back and reevaluate some of these studies that have been
made, he didn't know A member of the department, Mr Gallagher, was
actively pursuing that and it looks promising, and it may be revitalized
as far as the study and the actual construction
Mrs Battin said she had a question of the Manager of the State
DPW How much of a design study are talking about? What is the cost?
Mr Hutchinson didn't know He said we are dealing with one or two
alternatives, (1) is to check the cost to do it ourselves working with
firms or whomever And the second question is, I hear you saying this
isn' t in the state priority system for design work - that you have other
things that are more important But that remains a policy question as
well from the standpoint that one of your bosses might come in and say
now go out and design this So in one sense there is the option that one
could approach the appropriate legislative officials
Mr Laing said if we were told that this were more pressing than
others, why naturally we would be told this
Ch 90 Mr Weiner said that Mr Crain asked the question about reimbursement
Funds of the costsof engineering design There is the possibility under Chapter 90
program that the town receives a certain amount of money allocated within an
annual basis for improving local roads Some of the money could under cer-
tain circumstances which he was not prepared to go into because he was not
an expert on it but he knew that if such a thing does take place, you could
be paid for engineering services out of Chapter 90 funds
Chairman Miley thanked for this information about Chapter 90
Mr Cohen alkedaif there are examples of having reimbursement within
a state highway? This is not a town road
Mr Laing said there are certain funds that are appropriated each year
under Chapter 90 and some municipalities have used that money for the design -
for the seed money - of state highways, and they get back $10 to $12 for
every $1 they invest It falls under the urban system. The way the federal
government grants money, sometimes it is on priorities, sometimes it is on
urban, and sometimes it is on secondary We happen to have urban systems
Chairman Miley said she always thought it was for a road between two
roads within a county
Mr Hutchinson said we can report back to you on the sense of the cost
for this and what alternatives are involved
Chairman Miley asked Mr Hutchinson to pursue the Chapter 90 very
vehemently
Mr Jackson remarked that although the second road has helped, it
doesn't help much with the westbound traffic in the morning, which is
something like 1900 vehicles between 7 15 and 8 15 a m.
Chairman Miley thanked Mr Laing and Mr Weiner for meeting with
the Board and they retired from the meeting
Recrea- Mr Robert Eby, Recreation Committee member, and Miss Joan Halverson,
tion - Recreation Coordinator, met with the Board regarding the center pools renova-
Center tion project and asked for guidance on (1) the use of the John J. Garrity
Pool plaque; (2) creation of a new plaque with appropriate inscription; (3) dedica-
Project tion ceremonies 111After discussion, the Board agreed (1) The John J Garrity plaque
should be installed on the bathhouse at the instructional pool; (2) the
dedication ceremonies are to be delayed until completion of the entire
project, including landscaping, and until the determination of a suitable
name for the project It was the consensus that a plaque indicating the
history of the pool would be inappropriate
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Chairman Miley read an application for Limousine licenses. Limousine
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to approve the Licenses
renewal of Limousine licenses for ten station wagons owned by Trans-
portation Management, 1668 Massachusetts Avenue, expiring May 1, 1981.
Upon notion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant a 1-day 1-Day
liquor license to St. Brigid's Parish on May 30, 7 00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. Liquor
in Keilty ]all License
Chairman Miley read a letter from the Traffic Safety Committee Center
stating that the committee has discussed the possibility of updating Street
the street lighting in the Center to provide better illumination Light
In looking into this matter, it was felt that sodium vapor linai,res
would be an alternative worth investigating, and in order to evaluate
this alternative, we would like to replace one of our existing lights
with a low pressure sodium light in the Depot Square area The Police
Department has received many calls from drivers complaining that they
have diffi:ulty seeing the police officer at that location in the evening
We feel that testing a single light at this location will help us to
evaluate the overall lighting in the Center as well as possibly improv-
ing the vi;;ibility of the officer We would like to have a light in-
stalled this summer and test it over six months At the end of that
period, we will issue a report to the Board with a final recommendation.
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to approve the
II/ recommendation to replace one of the existing street lights in the Depot
Square area with a low pressure sodium light for a period of six months,
subject to reconsideration by the Board if for any reason the light b e-
oomes unsua_tabie during this trial period.
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to sign the orders Street
for street acceptance, as approved by the 1980 Annual Town Meeting, for Acceptance
Kendall Road, Rockville Avenue and Sanderson Road
Mr. Httchins on requested approval of requests for transfers . Transfer
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to request approval Requests
of the Appropriation Committee for thtansfers of the following amounts from
the Reserve Fund to
Account 1775-Legal Fees - $20,000; 1800-Legal Expenses - $5,000;
2935-Copier & Supplies - $1,000; 5450-Road Machinery - $10,000
The Board approved the following items on the Manager's agenda:
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to grant permission Sign
to the Rotary Club to set up two free standing signs advertising a straw- Permit
berry festival at Hastings Park. on May 25; one to be placed at Hastings
Park and one on the Visitors Center law Signs to be removed after the
festival on Sunday afternoon.
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to sign the permit Bos.Edsn
for Boston Edison to hook up power for the Center pools Center
Pool
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DPW
Contract Mr Hutchinson recommended authorization of the additional sum of
78-6-E $3,247 13 for extra work under Contract #78-6-E for street, drain and
sidewalk construction The original contract bid price was $157,367;
an extra work order #1 in the amount of $7,430 was authorized by the
Board on October 23, 1979 for a water main on Banks Avenue This brought
the contract total to $164,797 It was necessary during the project to
build an additional stone masonry wall on Tucker Avenue As a result, the
final contract price is $168,044 13 In order to meet our current obliga-
tion under this contract, an additional authorization in the amount of
$3,247 13 is required
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to authorize the
additional sum of $3,247 13 for extra work under Contract #78-6-E The
total amount is now $168,044 13
Trash Mr Hutchinson discussed a draft copy of the rules and regulations
Collection on trash collection and the recycling component
Recycling Mr Donald Glennon, 199 Bedford Street, and Mr Wallace Weisinger,
193 Bedford Street, were opposed to establishing the recycling operation
at the Public Works Building on Bedford Street Mr Glennon said that
public works is wide open and unless it is fenced in, he could see it
all over Bedford Street, and he mentioned the problem of vandalism
Mr Weisinger said that his property is next to public works and it is
a mess all the time; kids break bottles, etc What is going to happen
when recycling starts? There will be broken bottles and papers blowing
over to my property
Mr Hutchinson said their concern is legitimate but we felt it better
to give the barn a try Mr Buse said that we have had quite a bit of
vandalism both on the building and equipment Mr Kent asked if it is
possible to obtain covers for dumpsters during hours when not in operation
Mr Warren Empey, Acting Director of Public Works, said that the onntainers
are open as they are looking for volume; the only way to raise money is by
volume. He had said that he had raised the same questions at a meeting
regarding vandalism, and the messy area, etc Also, if we continue with
the recycling and the materials are contaminated and that paper is burned
then we have to look for a place for disposal of this once the landfill
is closed down There are going to be problems with the recycling program
Chairman Miley said that other towns have gone on with their recycling pro-
grams after the landfills have been closed down, and we could find out how
dealt with it Wellesley has one Mr Empey said that Wellesley has quite
an extensive recycling area going If we run it on a part-time basis, which
has been suggested for two days a week at the public works building, once
it is open it is a 7 days a week affair, as there are no gates, no fences
Fences don't stop the vandalism Mu Hutchinson said that any program we
would run we would not provide manpower Chairman Miley said we are going
to have to make a decision Mr Hutchinson said he would have a report
for the Board on the a&ats .andswhat other towns are doing.
Discussion was held on the hours for trash to be put out and it was
agreed not to change the hours specified that containers are not to be
placed at the curb before 5 a m. ; all containers must be placed at the
curb prior to the start of collection at 7 a.m
Mr Hutchinson is to report back on June 9 regarding the fthal de-
cisions on trash collection and recycling.
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Chairman Miley informed the Board of an alert from Sheila Cheimetz
to write to the legislators to get H6253-Community Residences out of
committee The Board agreed ed that Chairman Miley is to write to Rep
Cole
Mr Crain agreed to represent the Board at the Elks Flag Day
Ceremony on the Battle Green at 7 00 p m on June 11
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted 5-0 by roll Executive
call vote - Mrs Miley, Mr Buse, Mrs Battin, Mr Kent and Mr Crain - Session
to go into executive session for the purpose of discussing strategy
with respect to collective bargaining and litigation, with no intention
of resuming the open meeting
After discussion, it was voted to go out of executive session
Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to adjourn at
10 20 p m.
A true record, Attest
Executive Clerk, Selectmen