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Public Hearing for FY2009 CPC Proposals
Cary Auditorium, Cary Memorial Building
Thursday, December 20, 2007
7:00 p.m.
CPC Members Present:
Joel Adler, Norm Cohen, Marilyn Fenollosa, Wendy Manz, Leo
McSweeney, Richard Pagett, Judy Pearson, Sandy Shaw, Betsey Weiss, Dick Wolk
CPC Chair, Betsey Weiss with introductions of the Community Preservation Committee members,
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opened the meeting. Betsey convened the meeting at 7:05 p.m., continuing it from December 13.
The agenda items were presented as follows:
1. Lexington Site Analysis Project (Housing Partnership) $25,000 – presented by Bob
Bicknell
Bob Bicknell briefly outlined this project, which is to identify developable building lots in the Town of
Lexington that are suitable for affordable housing. The project is an extension of past efforts and
designed to provide up-to-date resources and GIS data to identify developable land opportunities
throughout Lexington.
Questions:
1. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked how this is connected with other GIS
efforts of the Town. Will the material become publicly available? Bob responded that he is not
aware of how accessibility is set-up. He imagined the Engineering and Planning Departments
would have access to this information and it is therefore likely to be treated like other Town
Office information.
2. Frank Sandy, TMM, Precinct 6, asked about the picture on the PowerPoint slide. Marilyn
Fenollosa explained that it was a chart used in the Homebuyers Assistance Program project
application.
3. David Kanter, Capital Expenditure Committee, commented that the results of this project could
be viewed as a roadmap for anyone to develop in town. He expressed concern that with public
knowledge, this material could be very useful to real estate developers. Bob Bicknell shared
his own concern, which is that they do not have a way to identify affordable properties and this
effort will allow them a more modern approach.
2. Survey and Define the Homebuyer Assistance Program (LexHAB and Housing
Partnership) $25,000 – presented by Bill Hays and Bob Bicknell
Bob Bicknell announced that this is an amended project from the original Homebuyer Assistance
Program project. Rather than the $470,000 previously requested, Lexington Housing Partnership and
LexHAB are seeking $25,000 to define an appropriate home ownership program for the Town.
Therefore, the project that had previously been submitted for CPC consideration has been amended.
The request now is for only $25,000. With this, they will create a Statement of Objectives and
Summary for how best to achieve affordable housing.
Bill Hays shared some history stating that the Town of Lexington has become a resource of affordable
rental housing know-how for other communities. And therefore, at this time, they are interested, on
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behalf of the Town, in pursuing affordable housing that would be owned rather than rented. As a
Town, Lexington has little to no experience with this. In a reverse situation, they would like to learn
more about owning affordable housing from other communities just as these communities have learned
about affordable rental housing from Lexington. Funds for this project will allow them to consider the
possibility of beginning an affordable “ownership” program of this kind, which is in the long-term
interest of the Town. Having determined what others have done, Bill stated that they would
summarize the kind of program to adopt. Bill and Bob both expressed their delight at being able to
partner with each other (LexHAB and Housing Partnership).
Questions:
1. Richard Pagett, CPC mentioned that the first proposal had step-by-step costs. How did they
arrive at $25,000?
3. Harrington Pre-School Playground (School Department) $75,000 – presented by Liz
Billings-Fouhy
Liz Billings-Fouhy introduced herself as the supervisor of early childhood education for the Town of
Lexington stating that they serve children with and without special needs. She explained that two
years ago when the new Harrington School was built, a pre-school playground was left off the agenda.
Consequently, the School Department wishes to build an integrated playground designed for small
children ages 3-5. This playground will be unlike others in town as they have been built for 5-12 year
olds. Liz shared that parents have raised $20,000 over the last two years towards the cost. Currently,
they have 70 kids who come to the pre-school and therefore, wish to build a structure that is accessible
and developmentally appropriate.
Questions:
1. Frank Sandy, TMM, Precinct 6, asked if the picture on the PowerPoint slide is what they would
get for $75,000 or if it was a smaller part of it. Liz responded that it is only a piece of it. The
overall structure would include a sandbox, two teeter totters, the surface below and other
features.
2. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked about the $5,000 difference ($75,000
requested + $20,000 raised by families = $95,000) in relation to the total cost of $90,000. Liz
explained that the $95,000 also includes topography and site preparation.
3. David Kanter also asked Town Counsel’s opinion on eligibility. Betsey Weiss, CPC Chair,
responded that this project is eligible because it creates a new recreational resource in an area
that was not originally a playground.
4. School Administration Building/Old Harrington (School Department) $350,000 –
presented by Mary Ellen Dunn, Pat Goddard
Pat Goddard, Director of Facilities and Grounds, opened by saying it is yet to be determined whether
or not the Town will need five or six elementary schools in the future based on demographics and
school enrollment. He explained that the School Department had been using Old Harrington as swing
space and moved central school administration into this vacant space this past year – 22 staff members
in all. That number, however, has grown more recently and is now closer to 50 with the Facilities
Department staff having moved in. Facilities will occupy the space until summer 2009, when they will
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relocate to the new DPW on Bedford Street. Pat further explained that the School Department is
seeking $350,000 for improvements to the main floor of the school. These improvements will enhance
the building environment over the next few years as the Town determines what will happen with
school population. Pat outlined the following costs:
HVAC $225,000
Electric $ 50,000
Carpentry $ 50,000
A/V $ 20,000
Fire Alarm $ 5, 000
TOTAL $350,000
Questions:
1. Eric Michelson, Appropriations Committee, asked how many employees would be in the
building once completely renovated. Pat’s response was 40 plus or minus.
2. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked for a clarification of numbers
(employees currently occupying the building).
3. Norman Cohen, CPC, asked how much empty space there currently is.
4. Betsey Weiss, CPC Chair, asked how long Pat expected the school administration to be in the
space. Pat responded a minimum of three years. He stated it could be 3-5 years and further
stated that it could be recommended that the site serve as a permanent home to school
administration.
5. Town Office Complex Building Envelope (DPW) $95,000 – presented by Bill Hadley and
Peter Chalpin
Peter Chalpin, Town Engineer, stated there are two items to this request: gutter and downspout
repair/replacement for the TOB and Cary Hall and new storm windows for Cary Hall.
Questions: None
6. East Lexington Fire Station (DPW) $47,500 – presented by Bill Hadley
This project requests $29,500 for a new A/C system and $18,000 for the replacement of storm
windows for a total of $47,500.
Questions:
1. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked if Town Counsel had further qualified
this request.
7. Town Office Building Accessible ADA Restrooms (DPW) $50,000 – presented by Bill
Hadley
Bill Hadley, Director of Public Works, pointed out that this request is for $70,000 and not $50,000,
which was a preliminary estimate for bathrooms and signage for Town Hall and Cary Hall to meet
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ADA requirements. He stated they wish to establish two fully accessible bathrooms next to the
Recreation Department, per Massachusetts ADA guidelines.
Questions:
1. Richard Pagett, CPC, mentioned he was curious as to how cost is determined.
2. Wendy Manz, CPC, asked if the Committee on Disability could address its priorities and if this
is a top priority for funding this year. Victoria Buckley, Chair of the Committee on Disability,
responded that clearly, they would like both a ramp and bathrooms but because people can
access the TOB in the back, it is better to have restrooms and signage to let people know about
access and accessible bathrooms.
3. Dick Wolk, CPC, asked if there would be signage throughout Town in general. Bill responded
that it would be more appropriate for the Tourism Committee to provide pedestrian-friendly
signs.
4. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, stated that the CEC would welcome a list of
priorities from the Committee on Disability.
8. Town Office Building Use Study & Renovation Design (Town Manager) $100,000 –
presented by Carl Valente
Carl Valente, Town Manager, stated he is seeking $100,000 to evaluate the use of the Town Office
Building and to determine how it should be structured and laid out for maximum efficiency and
effectiveness for serving customers and staff. He further acknowledged that the DPW will move out of
the TOB in 18 months and next year, following this Use Study, he would request money for
construction and renovation expenses.
Questions:
1. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked for a breakdown of costs.
2. Frank Sandy, TMM, Precinct 6, asked why just changing an office requires reconstruction.
Carl stated the importance of having space and offices designed to meet Department needs,
which includes desk space, files, ventilation, code specifications, etc. They strive to meet the
needs of employees as well as the public they serve.
9. Stone Building Renovation (Library) $XXX – PLACEHOLDER – presented by Connie
Rawson
Connie Rawson, Director of Library Administration was absent at the time this agenda item surfaced
so Norman Cohen, Member of the Library Board of Trustees offered that the Library was requesting a
placeholder for this project and that the Stone Building (East Lexington Branch Library) was awaiting
the result of a study conducted on how to best preserve this building. He mentioned they are hoping
for the needed information to be available for the annual Town Meeting.
Questions:
1. Eric Michelson, Appropriations Committee, asked about the schedule for placeholders. He
inquired about the latest possible date for which numbers could be made available.
2. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, offered that there would be need for public
dialogue once numbers are available. Betsey Weiss, CPC Chair, stated that CPC would meet
and then have a public meeting.
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3. Sue Cusack, from the Committee on Disability asked if the plan would include making the
building accessible. The answer was yes, that is part of the study.
10. Land Acquisition (Community Development) $XXX – PLACEHOLDER – presented by
Dick Wolk
Dick Wolk, CPC, stated that there was no specific property at this time but they do wish to keep this
article open.
Questions: None
11. Fire Department HQ Renovations & Redesign (Fire Department) $40,000 – presented by
Chief Bill Middlemiss
Chief Middlemiss shared that both operations and administrative staff share the same functional area at
the Fire Department Headquarters creating several conflicts. Therefore, he is looking to improve the
efficiency and operations of day-to-day activities and is seeking funds to research and study the use of
the building. Following this study, he would bring forward a proposal to renovate and remedy the
situation in future years.
Questions:
1. Richard Pagett, CPC, sought clarification of the $40,000. Chief Middlemiss, mentioning, “the form
was not amenable,” said the money is for the study and design. Construction would be in the future.
12. Munroe Fire Prevention System Replacement (Fire Department) $579,550 – presented by
Chief Bill Middlemiss
Chief Middlemiss opened by saying the Fire Department is seeking nearly $580,000 to install a new
fire suppression system in the Munroe Center for the Arts and to complete the construction for this
project. He shared that the current fire sprinkler systems are very old at Munroe and that it is unlikely
that they would work. He further stated that there is some responsibility on the Town as property
owner.
Questions:
1. Wendy Manz, CPC, asked if this project would be applicable no matter what purpose the
building was used for.
2. Joel Adler, CPC, asked if the Fire Department visits commercial and school buildings on a
regular basis – to be familiar with buildings, to know how to access, to identify code violations,
etc. He commented that he was surprised to hear the system at Munroe had not been tested.
Chief Middlemiss confirmed that they do visit certain properties on a regular basis and that the
Munroe system has been regularly inspected – reviewing main valve, supply line, root system
of operation, etc., however, there are deficiencies – size and diameter of pipe, sprinkler heads
from 1918, and the like. The Chief shared that under current standards, they are required to
have the system inspected but not tested.
3. Marilyn Fenollosa, CPC, asked if it was safe for occupancy between now and when the new
fire suppression system is installed. Chief Middlemiss said it is as safe as it was in 1918. The
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building itself does not require a sprinkler system based on its use and it is highly unusual to
have a system like this. The Chief asked – is it safe – it’s as safe as Cary Hall is, he said. The
Chief further stated that they need a very aggressive campaign with realistic limits.
4. Wendy Manz, CPC, asked if there is a range of costs or is this the minimum needed to install a
system. Chief Middlemiss responded that this is the cost if it was to be installed today.
Approximately $100,000 should be factored in for inflation costs.
5. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked if you factor in all the grandfathering, is
the building compliant? Chief Middlemiss responded that under current standards, they are
required to have the system inspected but not tested.
6. Unknown person said they want confidence that a licensed inspector has inspected the system.
Chief Middlemiss said as far as operations go, they have met with the folks at Munroe to
address areas needing to be cleared and they have imposed storage limits. He also said that his
staff has gone into this building more than ever trying as best they can in the conditions they
have.
7. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, mentioned that they have lots of
documentation.
8. Sue Cusack, from the Committee on Disability, asked if work on the fire suppression system
trips ADA requirements. The response was that there is a fair amount of ADA work that
should be looked at.
9. Richard Pagett, CPC, spoke in follow-up to Sue Cusack. He asked at what point do we obligate
ourselves to do a full renovation? Someone responded that it is triggered by a percentage of
total building value. Richard stated that the paper did not include ADA issues. Carl Valente
said that the engineering study included building systems and building envelope only.
10. David Kanter, Capital Expenditures Committee, asked how long the project would take once it
was kicked off. The Chief responded 2-3 weeks to remove the old system and less than a
month to put the new one in.
At this point, the meeting returned to agenda item #9 – Stone Building Renovation (Library). Connie
Rawson shared that the East Lexington Branch Library suffered a flood in August 2007 and that the
Trustees are waiting on a report before making a decision on how to proceed. There are two parts to
the process – one, an evaluation of the Stone Building as a municipally owned structure and two, a
decision for what should occur within the structure. The Trustees are currently waiting for the report
and plan to have a public hearing in the first quarter of 2008. No further questions were asked.
Regarding other business, CPC Chair, Betsey Weiss announced that the requested amount for the
Archive Record Management and Conservation Project put forth by the Town Clerk had been revised
from $35,000 to $150,000. In response to this announcement, David Kanter commented that he was
delighted to learn that the comments previously made on this project had been addressed.
Betsey Weiss adjourned the Public Hearing at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Judy Pearson
Administrative Assistant to the CPC
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