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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-10-15-REC-min.pdf • �n, TOWN OF LEXINGTON 1. 9 MASSACHUSETTS RECEEATION COMMITTEE gmsafr RECREATION COMMITTEE MINUTES 1 October 15, 1997 Members Present: Sandra Shaw, Pam Varrin, Don Chisholm, Rick DeAngelis, and Paul Keane Staff Present: Karen Simmons, Brian Gilbert Others Present: Members of Friends of Hennessy's Field AGENDA. 1 Minutes of September 17, 1998 Pam Varrin wanted to clarify her statement regarding improvements to playing fields by private organizations to reflect the concern that if private organizations take over the funding in a regular way, then those items can pass out of the general budget in a way that can be unexpected, and that can be an issue. The minutes were accepted with this clarification noted. 2. Friends of Hennessy's Field Sandra Shaw stated that the committee is generally familiar with many of the positions of the Friends of Hennessy because of the discussion at the previous meeting and because of the articles in the Lexington Minuteman. For the past six years the long range plan of the committee has included plans to build soccer fields and a small unpaved parking area at the Hennessy area. Because of the increased participation in soccer,junior lacrosse and other field sports,Recreation has determined that the time has come to act on our plan in order to do our job and provide enough fields for the increasing program demands. The purpose of this meeting is not to debate the issues around Hennessy We are interested in hearing your concerns and will listen carefully to them. If there are questions of clarifications we will try to address those, but we are dedicating the first hour to hearing you and will not debate your conclusions. We apparently have an honest difference of opinion of what is appropriate at Hennessy, but we do believe that we share an appreciation of Hennessy and we feel that with a sensitive field design that this recreational area will continue to serve the neighborhood well, and will also give all citizens of Lexington an opportunity to share more fully the many benefits of this ten acre parcel in North Lexington. All speakers are requested to stand and give their name and address before speaking. We have one hour and then the regular meeting will continue. 2 Deborah Brown was the first to speak and stated that the goal of the Friends of Hennessy's Field is to keep Hennessy's Field the way it is and to preserve it as a spot for quiet,passive recreation. Copies of her remarks and those of the several other speakers are included with these minutes. The next speakers were Fran Ludwig, science specialist at the Estabrook School, members of the Estabrook Brownie troop; Arlayne Peterson of Turning Mill Road; and Meg Landers reading a letter from Marilyn and Irving Abel of Partridge Road. These statements are included. Pedro Lilienfeld of Demar Road read a letter from a person who grew up in Lexington and is a medical student in Worcester. She wanted to lend her support to keeping Hennessy's Field as it is. As a child she went there to learn about milkweed and lilacs and as a teenager it is where she went to be alone, walk her dog and cross country ski. She suggested repairing the Estabrook field where she used to play Sunday soccer, which would also benefit the children on school days. She wants to add her voice as a young adult, athlete and nature lover, not because she is homeowner or not in favor of recreational sports. She thinks the field provides a great learning opportunity and always enjoys a run in Hennessy's field when she is at home. Stuart Muench has lived on Dewey Road for 25 years and previously for12-13 years on Ledgelawn Ave. He learned to expect a little bit less of the town when he moved beyond Rt. 128, less lighting and sidewalks in poorer condition. He has walked other school grounds and found them in better condition than Estabrook playing field, which is a disaster, all weeds with hardly a blade of grass and not well cared for. He feels that it is another case of the further away from town,the lesser the services get. But he likes the rural setting and the way Hennessy's Field is now If the plan does go through, what will the area be like in five or ten years? The center will be taken care of first and the suburbs will take care of themselves like they always have. He feels Hennessy will only deteriorate in time and will not be kept up. Soccer fields that are close to the center are more accessible and will be the ones that are maintained if money gets short. That is his main concern. Can you really do the job, keep it up, and keep it up over the long term and do it right? The remarks of Eileen Entin of Blossomcrest Road, representing the Citizens for Lexington Conservation, are included. Dan Brzezenski of Robinson Road stated that he has walked Hennessy Field for all of his 32 years in town and has watched it change quite radically from when Mary Hennessy sold it to the town to what it is now He noticed the effect on the ecology of the lower area when the town ran a sewer line through it. After the August Recreation Committee meeting he followed up on suggestions from LYS and called both Hanscom Field and the Bedford VA Hospital regarding their fields. Hanscom has two fields, with the larger one available at a$35 fee. The VA field is used by Bedford Soccer, and is available to other youth groups at no charge as long as they have liability insurance. 3 John Pompeo of Hadley Road read a statement that is included with the minutes. Deborah Brown read remarks from Tom Sileo of Chelmsford,the author of Historical Guide to Open Space in Lexington, and from Ellen Kaplan of Burlington Street. Additional remarks were head from other members of the audience. To the question of how long is the soccer season compared to year round pleasure of Hennessy's Field, Sandra Shaw responded that permits are issued from April 1 to the second or third week in November, 22 weeks. Rob Baltz mentioned that most of the houses there do not have grass so residents like natural areas. He mentioned the possibility of building soccer fields at the Hartwell Ave. landfill sight similar to what was done at Lincoln Park. Kay Tiffany from Reed St. enjoyed the recent Conservation walk at Hennessy with Tom Sileo. She feels that not all kids play soccer and need open space for other recreational purposes. Hennessy is a magic place accessible for older people. Kati Steinberg, a Schoolyard Adventure volunteer who has children who play soccer, contrasted the Hennessy property to the Great Meadow,which you really can't get into. Linda Wolk said she always thought it was the mission of the Recreation Department to provide recreation for the entire population and asked if there were any other options for those who do not play team sports. Suggestions given were the Fitness Path and Willards Woods. Sandra reminded her that some very articulate statements had been presented and that is the way the Recreation Committee wants to keep it tonight. Town Meeting will be the time for debate. David Kaufinan of Burlington St., a steward for Willards Woods, emphasized that Hennessey is a meadow, and one of the few kept in that state. Willards Woods at one time had a meadow, but with decreased mowing it is no longer in that state. Sandra responded that it was not a financial decision not to mow We were told that there were butterflies there and we were not to mow it anymore. She reminded the audience that there are some facts that have been thrown out tonight that are not correct. The committee will be talking about this and might even get an Op-Ed page. To the question of how many fields there are Sandra responded there are six regulation full size fields. The Estabrook field is used for Little League Baseball in the spring and cannot be scheduled for even smaller type soccer games. Mr. Brzezenski said that he got a list of all the fields in Lexington when he visited the Rec. Dept. and there are three fields at Lincoln. Sandra emphasized also that we don't always have the same number of fields available because fields have to be rested and seeded. Karen said that we deny permits on a regular basis, and agreed that we give blanket field permits to LYS and Youth Lacrosse when the school teams are not using the fields, and they schedule their games. It would require many more hours of our time, and another 20 hour or more position, if we did the actual game scheduling at the Recreation office. To the question about what size field could smaller children play on, Brian Gilbert responded that a regulation full size field such as Diamond or Lincoln is about an acre and a half LYS uses fields that are about%of that size for younger age groups (U10), and then graduate up. When pressed on the number of% size fields, Brian emphasized that it depends on the season, what is resting, and whether or not it is baseball season. Pam Varrin said that we really do not like to talk off the top of our heads and may not have all the information to answer the questions. She suggested that if the questions were 4 put in a more organized form, we would be happy to answer them. She emphasized that the Recreation Committee does care about recreation for all citizens and very much appreciates the Friends coming to articulate the concerns of those who recreate on Hennessy's Field. It is a lot of information to digest. The Recreation Committee does not undertake a project like this lightly and have thought about alternatives. Deborah Brown will be a point person to get questions. Sandra said that they had gone over the amount of time agreed upon with Deborah for this part of the meeting. When the meeting resumed, Don Chisholm read part of a statement form the Planning Department clarifying the process by which land can be moved from one type of use to another. When Hennessy was purchased in 1962, it was for playground and ballfield and related recreation purposes and other public purposes. That's a standard phrase that enables it to be changed to another purpose with a different process than protected land. Before it can be converted,the board or officer in charge needs to specify that it is no longer needed for that purpose and is no longer of value as recreational property,then it can go to town meeting for a 2/3 vote to transfer. It can't go to town meeting unless the committee in charge says it no longer needs it. Last year, for instance, some school property was converted at Town Meeting. The logical follow up is what would the town want to do with the property 3 Pine Meadows Brian stated that the wells were put back out to bid because the initial bids were so high, and will be in October 23 Brian said that the second bid that came in late had an ( acceptable price so we are optimistic of getting a better price this time. Dave Carbonneau of the Engineering Department has also contacted another well driller. Brian believes that we can still proceed this fall. The scope of the work is to dredge the lower pond, install the wells, and pipe that to the upper pond, and plant a seven foot buffer along the pond on the second fairway side in addition to the trees that are already there. The planting is not part of the bid and will be done by Parks Department. Karen handed out a report on the golf course. The 1997 data is only through October 5, so the figures are not complete and should go up by about 2000 rounds with an increase to the revenue. Pine Meadows will close December 1 unless there is a snowstorm before that date. It looks like we are on our way to a banner year revenue wise, and will at least match the number of rounds played. Our projected revenue for end of the fiscal year ending June 30 was $600,000 and we went over by $26,000. We have had a very successful year and the report will be updated when the course closes. Regarding the tee markers,there are three still available. Five have been purchased and Bill Harrison will contact the sponsors to see if they should wait to go up next season. When questioned whether or not New England Golf retains any of the revenue from the carts, Brian replied that an amount is reflected in New England Golf's 5%, and there is not a separate $1.00/cart amount, for instance. A customer who said that in the summer he was told that players who went out after 4.30 PM could not use carts prompted the question. Karen said the evening leagues do use carts so she will look into this with the Management Company 5 Regarding the usage of Pine Meadows by the L.H.S. golf team, Karen stated that she has had no negative feed back this year. She wants to get figures of the number of players to present at Town Meeting so they see what Recreation is donating to the schools. Bill Harrison also has data on use by Minuteman Tech. On Friday, October 17 there will be a Town Employee Golf Tournament with a 10:00 am shotgun start. Thirty-six players are registered, paying greens fees with a cold cut lunch included. Rick questioned whether or not New England Golf would be receptive to charity tournaments, but all agreed that a policy would have to be in place if a charity event were to be held. Don suggested running an employee tournament in the summer when school department employees could participate and build some camaraderie between departments. The Pool bid came in very high, at approximately $180,000. The de-watering portion came in at$100,000, so Karen met with Rick White to discuss options. Rick will be able to assist us with the funding. We've awarded the contract and Frank Fields is dealing with the necessary paperwork. We'll be meeting with the contractor to see what can be done soon and what will have to wait until next year. We'll probably get the wells in now to take care of the de-watering, essentially to pump the water out of the construction site. If you don't de-water the pool shell could pop out. 4 Bike Path Report Karen reported that several months ago the Town Manager requested that a committee be formed to look at the bike path. It is seen as an "orphan" in town and no one has ( jurisdiction over it. One of the goals is to improve communication and enhance the support of all the dedicated people who help with the bike path. Karen has met with Rick White and the Senior Management Team to get their feedback, and then will go to the various bike committees to get their support, and to the Board of Selectmen. Brian should get credit for a team he pulled together,the Inventory and Means Committee, as a subsidiary of the bike committees. Brian applied for a planning grant to have an arboretum along the bikeway because of all the different ecosystems there, enabling a tree to be planted in the right place and to exist in its natural state. Schools are involved, Fran Ludwig, Citizens for Lexington Conservation, Friends of the Bikeway, different stewards, and representatives of the Garden Club. The goal is to do an inventory The money is from the D.E.M. Bikeway maintenance now comes out of Highway and Park's budgets, etc. depending on what use is needed as determined by Board of Selectmen. In the proposed plan, George Woodbury recommends that maintenance be part of the DPW budget and that the Bikeway Committee then prioritize their needs. Brian reported that there has probably been less vandalism than expected, but there is a lot of graffiti and signs being stolen. Bicycle patrols have now been extended beyond the Minuteman Bikeway The proposal is to move the Bike Path under the jurisdiction of the Recreation Committee, and Brian will continue to maintain it with the assistance of the volunteer groups. Recreation would advocate for the Capital, but it would come out of the tax levy Any capital project (other than standard maintenance) would require MBTA or EOTC approval. There was some discussion as to what would ( constitute a capital project. Rick said that in layman's terms a capital improvement is an 6 improvement that is not otherwise already there. A replacement of whatever is already there would not be a capital project. Rick DeAngelis also wanted a definition on what was meant by"the Bikeway needs being integrated into the Recreation Committee's master plan" Karen replied that this would be the Recreation Committee's master plan of what our needs are, the 5 year Capital Improvement Plan. Pam felt that according to the flow chart if it were proposed, for instance,to extend the path through Hanscom to hook up with the Minuteman National Park Bike Path, it wouldn't necessarily involve the MBTA because it was not their land. It appears that the Selectmen would have to approve any projects that would then go to the Bikeway Committee. Regarding Brian's committee, he feels that there has to be communication between the friends and stewards and DPW and that is what this committee will be doing and coordinating the responsibilities of each group. 5 Brian's Report Parks Department is doing typical fall maintenance. Lincoln looks great and Harrington is about a week behind. We will top dress the rough areas at Lincoln and hand seed them in. The process used at Lincoln with the roto-tilling contracted was different from that used at Harrington,the in house method. Probably a combination of the two would be good. Adams field has been seeded but the water is not in yet, although some of the irrigation work has been completed. Brian feels that this area will probably have to be worked on again in the spring. There will still be several fields out in the spring. Lincoln might not be ready even though it was seeded at a very high rate and the weather has been very good. Other fields are being fertilized as well. Worthen Road field will be drained this fall and, if successful, it will become a' soccer field in the spring. Trees have been planted at Pine Meadows to create a grove including some specimen trees. Others will be planted in the spring. 6. Karen's Report Last week the Recreation Department got more bad news on space available to us. As reported to us by Tony Capezza,the high school is not issuing permits for non-academic programs after July 1, 1998. This will have a significant impact on recreation because we use the gym and field house for drop-in and other structured programs. This is because of the construction associated with the capital project. Since we also will be denied use of Estabrook Hall because of the temporary library in Cary Hall, this will mean a significant drop in revenue. Programs at LHS include drop in jogging and basketball with 10-60 participants daily, men's basketball, golf and aerobics, mostly adult programs, with some use by youth basketball teams and a spring baseball clinic, and rainy day space for summer sports clinics. When Karen spoke with Brian McNally he was not aware of this decision. Pam felt that with the scope of the capital project changing daily, a more L 7 mutually useful agreement could be worked out. Rick felt that we need to preserve use of the field house for the programs Recreation provides. Karen will be turning in her operating budget on Friday and will have a copy at the next Recreation Committee meeting. 7 Rick DeAngelis reported that Dick Perry had a conversation with Boston Edison this week and the meter for the control box has come in. Edison will plan to install it within the next week or so. Karen added that LHS has scheduled a boys' soccer game under the lights on October 24 at 6:15 PM, and they are still trying to schedule at girls' game. Center#2 lights are on Monday through Thursday for ultimate Frisbee. Regarding the irrigation for the Center#1 baseball field, Rick understands Lawthorn Irrigation must present a plan to Karen and Brian, and when approved the work can then be scheduled and the field can be taken down and re-sodded. Brian wanted to clarify that once this system is put in there has to be an understanding about maintenance, and Rick agreed that all wanted it to be maintained properly and they would talk about it. Karen felt this should go along with the policy they should discuss regarding the issue of private funding. Rick felt that it would take about two weeks and understands that the soccer field area will be the last part completed. The meeting was adjourned at 10:20 PM. NEXT MEETING. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 1997 7.30 PM ROOM 105 PLEASE NOTE CHANGE IN DATE AND LOCATION t