HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-03-25-HSC-min.pdf HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE
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Present Carol Perez, Ruth Nablo, Barry Marshall, Ruth Butler, Stephen Baran,
Nicky Osborne, Howard Levingston Also Elizabeth Pressman
The meeting was called to order at 7 30 P M by Carol Perez Mr Roy
Hebert of the CMARC board asked to read a letter from the board's vice-president,
Irwin Alterson Due to a conflict with another meeting Mr. Alterson could not be
present in person In his letter Mr Alterson thanked the committee for its
support He also asked to meet with the committee at a future date to clarify
the position of a salaried person for contract procurement The letter indicated
that the new executive director of CMARC will be in place on April 1, 1980
Members of thi H S committee were invited to the CMARC board meeting on April 10,
1980 at the workshop, 2 Sixth Road, Woburn, at 7 30 P.M Mrs Nablo asked for a
copy of the latest audit report Mr Hebert gave her a copy
The minutes of March 18, 1980 were accepted as written
The committee discussed their role in pursuing answers from Mystic Valley
vis a vis escrow funds Will the Selectmen or the committee do this? At this
evening meeting the committee should let Mystic Valley know that they will be
hearing further about the requested responses
Nicky suggested that Dr Carbonneau talk about where the center has been
and where they are going He also should discuss the impact of $30, 000 on the
center and its services Some of the respon.ees to the committee' s previous
questions for Mystic Valley such as how the agency counts the number of counseling
hours and what percent or number of clients go to centers not in their own town
Nicky Osborne felt that it would be difficult to ask quantitative questions at the
meeting, though the Mystic Valley people should have the answers
Mrs Perez thanked Ruth Nablo for representing the committee at the High
School mock Town Meeting
The committee then turned to a discussion of agency evaluation criteria
Steve Baran asked whether, at some point, the committee wished to make a preventive
model part of the criteria? DL-eussion followed Ruth Butler felt there is a lack
of support for prevention from a promotional, educational point of view on an
individualized basis Steve Baran wants programs to clearly explicate the model
that they have What would their ideal program be? What are the discrepancies be-
tween what they are doing and the ideal? How will they work toward the ideal?
There should be a distinction between short, one year goals and long range
goals, stated Nicky Osborne Dr Baran added that programs often lack goals and
objectives for individual clients Discussion of whether or not "maintenance"
could be a goad followed
Howard Levingston suggested that REPLACE needs more direction, more focus
on planning rather than just "putting out fires " Other committee members concurred
Nicky Osborne asked Mr Levingston just how he will help REPLACE He replied that
he will only advise them if they want him to do so It wil] be done in his role as
a member, of the H S committee not as an individual He also stated that he would
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want another committee member knowledgeable in the human service/mental health
field to go with him In that way hi. area of expertise on the management side
would be complemented and data could oe analyzed
The workshop approach to providing advice to agencies was discussed
Mrs Perez questioned the time and effort needed to run a workshop She asked
whether the same results could be obtained by requiring specific things be done by
an agency in order for them to be funded?
Mrs Perez commented that she does not see the criteria as hard and fast
for every agency, but rather as guidelines for agency review The criteria could
also be seen as helping the agencies in a growth process i e not all criteria
will be met the first year but should be looked at as ultimately being fulfilled
A short discussion of what tne "legacy" of this committee should be
followed Carol Perez stated that she would .like to see a paid staff human ser-
vices coord ,nator
At 8 30 members of the Mystic Valley staff and board joined the meeting;
These included the executive director, Dr Richard Carbonneau; the director of
Consultation and Education, Nancy Langman Dorwart, the new chief accountant, Thomas
Coyne, the director of the Lexington branch, Mary San Martino; and three board
members, Dr Gerald Harris, Mrs Althea Korte and Katherine B Macintosh
Dr. Carbonneau presented some written materials to the committee In-
cluded was a summary of a client satisfaction survey done in March and an account-
ing of the number of Lexington residents in various programs of the center The
director told the committee that the center is in the process of building up a
complete cost findings system They are going from a cash to an accrual method of
accounting and to a computerized process By July 1, 1980 they should have a
complete breakdown of revenues He said that MVMHC would be willing to earmark the
Lexington appropriation for a particular position if the committee wishes, or to
use the funds on design of an accounting system
Nicky Osborne asked Dr Carbonneau what the overall philosophy of Mystic
Valley is, what are its goals and objectives and where he sees the center as having
been and going? He answered that the center had evolved from a small child and
family service organization fifteen years ago to its present role as a comprehensive
community mental health center It enjoys a high reputation for services it provides,
he added There are presently 1400 clients and client families being served, 400 of
whom would otherwise be hospitalized at a far greater cost The center attempts to
provide the fullest range of services as provided by law 9463, Ambulatory out-
patient services are the largest part of services provided The staff is multi-
disciplined Of the total budget $] lO 000 is asked for from the towns served Since
inflationary costs were met by the center's federal grant the towns were not asked
to raise their contributions this year
Ruth Butler asked what a model program is like at the present time? How
is it different from what it was and/or will be? Branch director Mary San Martino
related some anecdotes of recent situations handled by the center She said that
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the center is currently reorganizing its administration in order to put more
emphasis on children's services, particularly children under stress Children of
deinstitutionalized parents have particular need for help Marital counseling
often leads to helping children of these couples This is an apportunity to do
some preventive work with children Ms San Martino indicated the need to communi-
cate planning appropriately to the community
The director of consultation and education stated that there are a
variety of mental retardation programs There are two goals of these programs,
first, to serve the primary prevention population, and second, to serve deinstitu-
tionalized patients and the families and communities that have to deal with them
Dr Gerald Harris, president of the Board of Directors, explained some of
the changes that have taken place with the Board The center has become a private
organization, giving the Board more responsibilities and more authority to oversee
the management of the center They have asked for development of a management
system and of a better accounting system There have been many problems with both
the state and federal governments A series of philosophic and guidance questions
have been asked of the administration by the Board
Ruth Butler asked how a unit of service is defined by the center
Dr Carbonneau said it basically is 50 minutes for a counselling session This may
vary, depending on the modality If a parent and child are seen simultaneously they
are counted as one (1) unit A group or family session is also counted as one (1)
group hour
Tom Coyne the new chief accountant was introduced There are seven
people involved in the financial aspects of the program This is insufficient
Mr Levingston asked whether Mr Coyne had brought any financial data to the meeting
Dr Carbonneau replied in the negative He stated that the center' s finance
committee would be meeting the next evening, March 26, and committee members would
be welcome He added that at this point Mystic Valley cannot yet respond to
financial data question to the extent that they would like He explained the pro-
blems the center has had with the computer they purchased fifteen months ago
Mr Levingston asked when the fiscal year is for the center The director
answered that their fiscal year ends on June 30, though federal grants expire on
April 30 'The federal grant which they currently have runs through 1983
Tom Coyne then described the current and past accounting systems of the
center Howard Levingston asked whether there is a financial plan for the year?
Tom Coyne said yes In reply to a second question by Mr Levingston about the cost
to run the center for a month, the chief accountant said he did not know He will
have the figures through February at the finance committee meeting The center is
now running at a slight deficit
Barry Marshall, referring to an earlier letter from Mr Coyne, asked about
the surplus money that would appear when the center changes from the cash to the
accrual method of accounting Mr Coyne said that there is no way that the agency
will have any kind of surplus He said that the money had been earmarked for
specific purposes
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Steve Baran asked whether any services were especially designed for the
population of 400 that would otherwise be hospitalized. Dr Carbonneau referred
to the crisis intervention team and emergency services Funding comes through the
federal government It is not yet known whether the state will provide its share
of funds The director of Consultation and Education added that Mystic Valley
serves 46 deinstitutionalized patients in nursing homes Currently the center is
doing an assessment of patients at Met State They are determining what the needs
of the area patients will be when and if they come out
Howard Levingston asked whether Mystic Valley does anything with REPLACE
Mary San Martino told the committee that until 1-1/2 years ago they had had a
consultation arrangement The director of Consultation and Education addded that
some services which they previously could provide free of charge must now be paid
for Mystic Valley ;ould not sunply REPLACE with the specific services which they
requested Mr Levingston suggested that there is a sense in the Town that some of
the Town appropriation could be used to help cooperation between agencies The
director of C and E said that her agency is still open to negotiation with REPLACE
She added that the Town money helps to pay for Lexington residents who can't pay
Some free services will still be given to the School Department The Town could
look at this as use of its funds
Dr Carbonneau said that there is a cross service arrangement with the
schools Schools do pay for, special contract programs Ms San Martino said that
she frequently consults with school groups without charge Dr Newman and Dr Wolf
also provide free consultation services
Mr Levingston asked whether Lexington bears the brunt of activity
The director replied that Arlington_did Is there a lot of client cross over between
towns, Mr Leving .ton asked? Yes was the response from Dr Carbonneau. Mary San
Martino stated that Lexington is getting more than its share
Ruth Nablo asked whether every town is assessed at 95C/capita? Aren't
other services in each town looked at? Dr Carbonneau stated that the answer to the
first question was yes, and the second, no He added that there is a correlation
between total population and demand for services from Mystic Valley
Ruth Butler suggested that the agency could help educate community groups,
such as the Human Services committee about the difficulties in the state structure
Programs can be crippled by some of the structure She went on to say that the
community is looking for parameters in which to measure outcome What benefits are
received by children and by families? An agency such as Mystic Valley is looked to
by the community for enlightenment on such issues Dr Carbonneau mentioned that
the area has seen a great drop in hospitalized residents since the center was
established Ms Butler asked whether this was not due to medication? Dr Carbonneau
felt the decline was not entirely related to greater use of drugs
Mrs Perez thanked Dr. Carbonneau and the others for coming to the meeting
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Mrs Korte of the Mystic Valley board asked that the committee further
delineate the first point of the recommendations to the Selectmen about Mystic
Valley The committee agreed to do so
After the representatives from the agency had left, Ruth Butler said that
she felt that they are well intended but lack structure The committee discussed
ways in which to communicate their concerns to the agency Mrs Nablo suggested a
contacting Winchester about their experience of paying Mystic Valley on a fee for .�
service basis Mrs Pressman will do so
The meeting was adjourned at 10 10 P.M
Respectfully submitted/ ,
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Elizabeth H Pressman
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