HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-11-18-HBRC-min HEALTH BENEFITS REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - November 18, 2004
(dcs rev of Roemer draft)
Present Deborah Strod (Co-Chair), Tom Rand, Linda Roemer (Recorder), Nancy
Meadows
Richard Eurich (Appropriations), Paul Hamburger (Appropriations), Evelyn Silber
(Personnel Advisory Board), Tom Griffiths (School Committee)
Staff Rose Duchame
Members of the Public Lorraine Former;
Administrative Matters
Copies of the Schedule of Benefits for the plans offered by the town were distributed
with FY 05 health and dental rates Later, copies of the Memorandum of Understanding
between the Coalition and the Town were distributed.
Deborah Strod opened the meeting and announced that Margaret Oliva had resigned
because of pressing family matters and that she hoped another participant would be added
but that in the meantime Nancy Meadows who was the spouse of a town employee could
provide some perspective
Dick Dougherty cannot make December 15th and alternative dates were discussed,
Deborah will check with other committee members but there was a feeling that perhaps it
was best to stick with the 15th
There will be no meeting on December 29th There will be meetings on January 5th and
January 19t1i 2005
Members agreed that it would be much easier on members if we could get a room with a
table and Deborah will see about doing this
Paul Hamburger reminded members to destroy the original spreadsheet, the electronic
version of which, might have made a town employee identifiable It was noted that this
was not the case with printed versions of that spreadsheet
Lorraine Former requested that she be added to the e-mail list and there was a discussion
about whether there would be materials that could not be circulated to the general public
Deborah will check on this, it was noted that at some point the committee might have to
go into Executive Session.
The schedule of the committee was discussed in terms of how much it could get done
before it was due to report to the Board of Selectmen. It was agreed that we could only
get done what we could get done and that it was very likely that there would be much
work to be done after our February report.
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A question was raised about whether collective bargaining was already taking place and
whether it was usually for one year or two years No one on the committee had heard
anything about bargaining having started and clarification was needed on the duration of
the agreement with the Coalition.
Deborah asked the Committee not to request information directly from staff Requests
need to go through Linda Vine, and Evelyn will be the point person for data requests
from this Committee
After some discussion, it was agreed that generally e-mails should go through Deborah
and Dick to avoid confusion and multiple e-mails being confusing. E-mails about the
Committee should have HBRC in the header to help people keep track.
Paul reported that he had distributed 3 worksheets by e-mail last night and it was made
known that a more detailed report could be obtained from GBS
The Committee was reminded that the benefits consultant would be available to the
Committee but that we needed to be efficient in the use of his time and that we needed to
detail what specific information we wanted from him.
Minutes
The minutes of the meeting of November 3rd were amended so that Section 5b of the
minutes reads "In its initial report, the Committee will present possible options or
recommendations These can be short- and long-term."
A Section 5d was added stating that it was part of the charge of the Committee to see if
costs could be reduced for both the Town and participants
The Minutes were then accepted as amended.
Discussion
There was a discussion of the difficulty of getting diagnostic information and the value of
preventive services that might be provided. Currently, the town only provides flu shots
Other services, such as yoga, are available from Blue Cross with participants paying the
cost.
Deborah outlined a schedule of topics and dates as follows
12/1/04 Options in the Industry—HSAs, HRAs, FSAs (the town has HSAs)
What other towns are doing and their pricing
12/15/04 Costs—claim data
Consumer-directed care
1/5/05 Self insurance, Reinsurance
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What are options
1/19/05 Report Drafting
2/2/05 Report to Board of Selectmen
With 40 minutes left, the Committee discussed with Rose a number of issues and
obtained information which members lacked.
• Employees are vested after 10 years and are then eligible to receive retiree
benefits
• The state requires that teachers receive retiree benefits after 10 years and that it is
the responsibility of the last town from whom the individual worked to provide
them
• Some retirees, although a decreasing number, are not eligible for Medicare
Those that are not Medicare eligible do not shift to a senior plan on retirement but
stay in the employee plan, paying the same percentage Some employees become
eligible for Medicare because they have a second job or because their spouse is
eligible
• Individual vs family plan. Because employment by the town is seen as unlikely
to change, families tend to choose the town plan rather than a plan provided by
another entity Some employees choose individual plans but they have to choose
a family plan when there are children.
• A question was raised about whether being self-insured we get the same discounts
from providers as if we were part of an insurance plan. It was suggested that this
was probably the case
• The opt-out program was explained to the committee members
• Rose explained the history of the two groups (West Suburban and MIIA) to which
Lexington had belonged and the reasons why they were unsatisfactory the large
size of the Lexington group but only one vote and, in the latter case, the failure to
obtain promised reinsurance
• The history of reinsurance limits and costs was also discussed. It was noted that
this was a balancing act between cost and returns
• The Town is required to provide benefits to anyone who works 20 hours or more
It was noted that possible strategies included changing the health/dental plans or their
designs, changing the percentage paid by town and participants, structure of
HSAs,FSAs,HRAs, collective benefits purchasing (in some other way than the
experience with West Suburban and MIIA), change self-insurance level at which the
Town gets reimbursed (was 75k, went up to 90, perhaps 150 or 200k would be a
compromise), decreasing the number of participants, improving the health of participants,
and helping participants to be smarter users of services Our approach is to look at the
current status, its history, and lay out current options and their consequences (positive
and negative)
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