HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-03-02BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING
MARCH 2, 1971
The regular meeting of the Board of Health was held Tuesday,
March 2, 1971, at 7:00 P.M. in the Health Department Office.
Members present were: Dr. William Cosgrove, Chairman. Mr. James
Lambie, Dr, Charles Ellicott and Robert Heustis. Director of
Public Health.
Minutes of the February 2. 1971 meeting were approved,
Tho stabling regulations for the keeping of horses were STABLE
again discussed and changes and additions made. REGULATIONS
Mr. Lambie suggested that Section 6, paragraph "h" b-
changed to read: "...a dry w.?11 or to provide some other
method of drainage acceptable to the board of health." Section
7, paragraph "d" to read: ",,.shall be valid and may be re-
newed subject to...".
The proposed addition to Section 6, paragraph "k" was
changed to comply with zoning regulations. The following sen-
tence was added to Section 7, paragraph "a": Tho application
shall also show the location and dimensions of fencing.
Dr. Ellicott said he would like to have the fencing regulation
made a little more rigid and explicit but after further discussion
it was agreed to accept the regulations.
A motion was made and duly passed to rescind the Vaote of the
Board made March 2. 1970, which adopted the stabling; regulations
as submitted at that time.
Notion was then made and duly passed to adopt the stabling
regulations with all changes, additions and corrections which have
been made since March 2, 1970.
The clerk was instructed to send a cony of these r=gulations
to Town Couns31. Mr. Lanro, for his final approval, Tf Mr, Legrc
has no further changes for these regulations they are to be printed
in the 1 -cal nap=r one. and a copy sent to Town Cleric.
Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Parsons, 65 Allen Street camp; before
the Board again, to discuss the location of the fence as re- PARSONS�
quir'don their permit to keep a horse. HORSE
Mr. Parsons: I really do not have much to add to what
we have already said at previous meetings with this Board. I
would like to explain that the area we want to use is the only
level area suitable for a riding ring for my daughter to practice
showmanship exercises. The horse would not be in the ring area
unless my daughter is riding the horse or unless the horse was
tied in that area for short periods of time. The horse is a
docile animal and has only gotten loose once. I would like to
leave the fence line where it is at the present time. 1 agree
with you that the atmosphere in the neighborhood is poor but this
area is the only place suitable for a ring and 1 promse this
Board that this area will be used with discretion. As I plan
this if the ring is there we will be giving better protection
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than you required T agree that the ^ttitudo and the har•rass-
meet with the Hopkins family is a hard thine tove
li with but
1 do not seg how the rine' situated where T want it will limit
the use of the Hopkins property.
Mr. Huestis: I feel there are many things attributing
to the issues in this neighborhood and unless you people over
there can come to some compromise you will continue to have
problems.
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Mrs. Parsons: You people are depriving us the use of our
and harnessing us.
Dr. Cosgrove: You say we are depriving you the use of
your land, you both very well know that after the initial hear-
ing we had on this permit Mr. Lambie and I were not in favor
of granting you a permit to keep a horse. We did not have
just the Hopkins family complaining but we had several other
neighbors who objected because of the excess flies and odor.
Dr. Colburn,. then a member of this Board, said you had the
required amount of land therefore he felt we should grant a
permit but in view of the objections by the neighbors he felt
if we made the location of the fence a condition to the per-
mit we would be protecting your neighbors from any health
nuisance and still let your daughter enjoy her horse. I say
you people have not cooperated with this Board since this
permit was granted., We gave you the permit in December 1969
and it wasn't until September or October that you put up any
fence for this horse. That would indicate that this horse has
been on your property close to a. year and the conditions of
the permit have not been adhered to.
Mr. Parsons: We got our permit in December 1969, I then
had to build a barn so we left the horse where she was stabled
until June when the people moved away. I started building
the barn and then we went on vacation to Maine for 3 weeks,
so the harse was in the yard, I would say, about 1 week in
June and then some of the time in August while I was working
on the barn. I spoke to Mr. Heustis about putting the fence
line along the lot line and I also spoke to you, Dr. Cosgrove.
After our meeting with you in December or January we got a
letter stating we had to go back to the original condition
of the permit before renewal of our permit in April.
Dr. Cosgrove: You admit then that the horse was on
your property in violation of your permit.
Mr. Parsons: The horse was not fenced for a period of
2 months all told.
Dr. Cosgrove: Where does the harrassment come in from
this Board.
Mrs. Parsons: Your restrictions, disposing of the manure
and fencing. Every time we move Hopkins calls Yr. Houstis and
complains and then he is right ov.-r there ch-ckirg up on us.
Dr. Cosgrove: That is not harrassment, that is his job.
He must investigate every complaint that comes into this office.
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The handling of the manure Is a standard nr•ocedur with the is-
suance of any permit for horses.
Mrs. Persons: Everytime we do anything in our yard Hopkins
is right there. W- nut the f=nce straight across t.e the lot line
Mr. Heustis said it was all right, then Hopkins complains and
now wo are notified we have to move the fence. We aro beim_ dis-
crimirsated against.
Dr. Ellicott: We issue these permits and expect the owners
to cooperate so that the animals will not be an annoyanee to the
neighbors.
Mrs. Parsons: You people think your Go
Dr. Ellicott: All we are asking is that you cooperate with
us so that your daughter may enjoy her horse.
Mrs. Parsons: We have suffered for 2 years with this thine,
my health is being effected by it.
Dr. Ellicott: You cannot blame your ill health on this
Board, we have been very reasonable. The harrassment you speak
of is not a health matter but a civil matter. T really don't
think you can blame your illhealth on the horse and this Board.
Mr. Lambie: Your neighbor relations could be the cause of
your ill health. The fence line as originally stated was a con-
dition of the permit. We have pointed out to you time and time
again that the location of the fend was a condition to this per-
mit because we had se much objection at the hearing we held. We.
felt if we Nave you a permit to keep a horse we also had to offer
some protection to the neighbors and that is the only basis we
issued this permit.
Mr. Parsons: I feel the fence as it is now, with the ring
will give batter protection to the neighbors. We keep a clean
yard and I won't let the horse graze in this area too much be-
cause of the grass. There is a hedge along the lot line.
Mr. Lambie: I feel you and Mr. Hopkins will have tc come to
a compromise before this thing can be settled. Your lot is narrow
and that was why the fence was set et the angle it was. You have
room at the back ofthelot away from your neighbors, as I re-
member that was fairly flat.
Mr. Parsons: It is rocky and there is ledge there, she fe1.1
there once and the horse fell down the embankment.
Mr. Lambie: Then you really don't have the full acreage of
usable land.
Mr. Parsons: I have taken some of the rocks out of there
but it would be impossible to get it in shape for a ring.
Dr. Ellicott: You do not seem to realize that the keeping
of e horse on a lot of land in a residential area is a privilege
rather then e right. I suggest you make peace with your neigh-
bors.
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P".rs.Parsons: We will not make peace. Y think this
Board is In with e Realty Trust and you are trying to ..rive
all the horses out of Lexington.
Dr. Cosgrove: Now wait a minute, we have spent more time
with you people than anybody else. We have over 100 horses in
Lexington now and other than you people we have no trouble
with them. If we have an occassional complaint of manure or
en excess of flies in the area we check it out and after Mr.
Heustis speaks to the owners things are cleaned up. You people
are the only ones who are not satisfied with the conditions
of your permit.
Mrs. Parsons: You have driven many people out of Lex-
ington because of their horses. I know because it has hap-
pened to my friends.
Dr. Cosgrove: You are referring to McFlman's. Now you
know the McElmans had no right to spread manure on the ground
and leave it. If I remember correctly McElmans were part of
the problem when this permit was granted, that is why this
Board was so careful when we issued this permit. The fly and
odor complaints and the horse getting loose all had to be
considered. McFlmans did not help your situation any.
Mrs. Parsons: There
Hampshire.
was the Rosas' they went to New
Dr. Cosgrove: We could not grant them a permit. they
did not have any land. They wanted to take a part of the
garage right next to their house and make a stall in it for
the horse. They did nct have a yard as wide as this room for
the horse.
Mrs. Parsons: You keep talking about flies, do you
imply we are dirty. We have flies, they come from Carroll's
Farm. but we don't run down here complaining, we spray.
Dr. Cosgrove: At your hearing we had one woman say
she caught a jug full of flies in less than a week, another
said they could not use their back door because of the flies.
Mrs. Parsons: We keep a clean place. Hopkins calls
the police every time we turn around. I didn't call the
police when holes were punched in 2 of our canoes.
Dr. Cosgrove: We have told you that those things are
a civil matter not a health matter. Flies are a health
matter. I say you should stay with our original ruling on
the fence.
Dr. Fllicott: You must realize you can not, create a
nuisance in the neighborhood. T suggest you make peace with
your neighbors.
Mrs. Parsons:
decision.
We will not compromise, What is your
Dr. Cosgrove: You will get it.
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Mrs. Parsons: How long before we hear from you. last time
we waited a month. My health is breaking now, T cart stand
this waiting.
Dr. 71.licott: You will have to wait for a decision, Mr.
Hopkins has the weight of law.
Mr. Parsons: It is very hard waiting a.nd checking the
mail each day. I hope you can see that we get a decision es
soon as possible.
Mrs. Parsons to Mr. Parsons: What do you think, I wontt
accept a compromise.
Dr. Cosgrove: We have offered you many suggestions on
how to make this thing work, but I feel no matter what decision
we make you will not accept it. You had that permit e whole
year and you knew what the conditions were and yet you did not
come to this Board once during that year.
Ir. Parsons: I came when we got ready to put up the fence.
Dr. Cosgrove: You had no right to have the horse there at
all until the fence was put up. We could gat very technical and
revoke your permit.
Mrs. Parsons: You people don't want horses in Lexington,
you make it very hard for anyone to have a horse. We have the
required acreage.
I'r. Lambie: Dimmensions of lot lines, neighbors and many
other factors enter into the granting; of a permit to keep a
horse. We cannot group them together just because they have
the required acreage. We have suggested you use the land up
in the back and you say it is not suitable for riding. there-
for. . we can assume you do not have the required acreage of
usable land.
Nr. Parsons: There was one other thing, you stated we
had to keep the manure in closed containers and cart it away
Last summer I dug a hole and put the manure in that, would
that be all right.
Mr. Heustis: We do accept alternate plans for the hand-
ling of the manure providing they do not create a nuisance. A
manure pit must be covered and treated.
Mr. Parsons: You will let us know of your decision in a
couple of days, it is hard waiting.
Mrs. Parsons. looking directly at Dr. Cosgrove: When you
send this letter. I,went you to sign it so you cannot deny
writing it or knowing about it.
Dr. Cosgrove: You will get your letter, but I still feel
you people should make a compromise.
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Mrs. Parsons: I will not make a comnrcm.se. When wei
get your decision, depending on what it is. you might hear
from my attorney.
Mr. & Mrs. Parsons retired.
After Mr. & Mrs. Parsons retired the Board discussed this
matter of the fence line for Parsons' horse.
Dr. Cosgrove: Well Gentlemen, I don't know how you feel
but as far as I am concerned those people will not make any
compromise. They want it their way and that is it.
Dr. Ellicott and Mr. Lambie agreed but the Board thought
if they could suggest a fair fence line the concerned parties
might come to some agreement.
Dr. Ellicott: If we suggested that they put the fence
line in such a way that at no point would the fence be less
than 100 feet from the Hopkins dwelling. I would think that
would give them more space.
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Mr. Lambie: Let us look at the plot plan.
The certified plot plan was checked and a line drawn to
where 100 feet from the Hopkins dwelling would be.
Mr.. Lambie: If these people could compromise on a. fence
line similar to this (indicating on plot plan) I would think
that would be enough space to give them the riding ring they
want.
Dr. Ellicott: They really should come to some agreement
themselves.
Dr. Cosgrove: Aro we agreed that we suggest to each
party that they try to make a compromise and suggest that
if the fence is kept 100 feet from the Hopkins dwelling and
both parties agree this Board will be satisfied. We'll send
a letter to the Parsons with these suggestions and send a
copy of that letter to the Hopkins family. I feel we have
boen very reasonable with these people and now it should be
up to them.
MYSTIC Mrs. Mary Welch, Executive Director of Mystic Valley
IALLZY Mental Health Clinic dropped into the, meeting and asked the
MEP'TAL 3oard if she could have a few minute to discuss the budget
F7ALTHI again.
BUDGET
Dr. Cosgrove said the Board could give her a few minutes
but it was late and the Board still had a full agenda.
Yrs. '..'el.ch exp'isined that shehad talked to Fr. Perry,
Comptroller and haa given him financial information that he
seemed to accept. Evidently this information did not get to
Mr. O'Connell, Town Manager, before the meeting with Clinic
Personnel and the Selectmen. Yrs. Welch left a copy of this
information for th- Board.
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She explained that at the end of 1970 the Clinic was using
some of their savings, money paid by Replace and other assets
not paid by the Town to meet their budget.
Mrs. Welch said she would explain anything the Board did
not understand about the services at the Clinic.
Dr. Ellicott said he felt that the hours spent in Staff
consultation should not be billed to the Towns in his opinion
this was overhead expense. He also said that when any hospital
or clinic used trainees it was an expensive service. A trainee
can interview patients and. then he must go back to the professional
for consultation. I feel this service is necessary but it is
expensive and using trainees can be inefficient.
Mrs. Welch said we have to interview families separately.
A disturbed child will not talk_ to anyone if he or she feels
the person is also seeking* one of his parents.
Dr. Cosgrcvo said he felt $33. dollars per hour was ex-
pensive. also we have no way of knowing how many hours a person
is seen by a professional or a trainee or whether they are seen
by e psychiatrist, psycholdgist or a social worker all this
could make a difference in the ever -all picture of the clinic.
Mrs. Welch said if the Board would take all the professional
hours spent on each patient and break it down they would see that
the service was only costing 19.81 per patient.
Dr. Cosgrove said this clinic has requested more money from
the Towns each year. I should think you would reach a plateau
and start stabelizing instead you seem to be accelerating. You
have a great deal of help for the number of patients. You keep
speaking of working with the schools, now we know Lexington has
a number of trained psychologists in the schools, the school
budget also has 33 thousand dollars set aside for psychiatric
consultation. The Drug Abuse Committee has 10 thousand dollars
and out of that they pay McMannus. Replace has just received
a grant of 10 thousand dollars and then your increased budget
makes it quite a sum for the tax payers to pay for mental health.
Mr. Lambie said maybe we should have a committee to study
this problem.
Mrs. Welch again cited individual cases being treated at
the clinic. and also talked about the out patient care for
Metropolitan State Hospital patients. She said she did not think
that Dr. Ellicott cr Dr. Cosgrove believed too much in the work
being done at the Clinic.
Dr. Cosgrove and Dr. :llicott said they did feel there was
good being; done at the clinic but they also felt there Has a
great deal of help for the number of patients treated and that
the costs should be studied very carefully.
After further discussion Mrs. Welch retired and the Board
again discussed the amount of money requested by the Clinic for
1971.
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Dr. Cosgrove said he was in favor Of staying with the same
amount as last year which Was $859. He said he c uld not
agree t.c the $17,870 dollars requested.. 1 would really like
to stey with last years figure and let the Town Meeting Men-
bers take it from there.
Dr. Ellicott said he was in favor of recommending about
$12,000 dollars which would allow for a cost of living raise
and also pay for additonal_ staff hours.
Mr. Lambie said he did not know how effective the Clinic
was and he agreed that it was an expensive service but he did
not feel that he wanted to cut the budget request this year.
He asked to see the copies of the letters from the other Board
of Health from the surrounding towns using the clinic.
Dr. Cosgrove pointed out that the letters Mrs. Welch filed
with us are from Boards of Health not the finance committees or
appropriation committees of the Towns, therefore, there is no
proof that the other towns will give them the full amount
they are asking for. After my meeting with the selectmen I
would say neither the selectmen or the appropriation com-
mittee will go along with the full amount.
Mr. Lambie said we could not prove that the clinic was
being run inefficiently and he did not want to do anything
to destroy the organization. He said he would recommend the
full amount but with strings attached such as payment be
made contingent on the audit and the services rendered by
explained in more detail. He went on to say that this year
a better underttanding should be developed with the clinic
no that another year we would clearly understand what was
needed.
After further discussion the clerk was instructed to
notify the Selectmen that a majority vote of the Board
recommended a sum of S12.000. be submitted to Town Meeting
for Article 27. Tt was pointed out that Town Meeting could
increase this amount by taking action on the floor.
The Board agreed to hold a public hearing. Narch 16.
1971 for the 611 additional units to be built by the Chalet
CHALET Susse, Inc, at 440 Bedford Street. Mr. Heustis said the
SUSSE'plans for the restaurant had also been submitted for ap-
proval, but the restaurant did not require a public hearing.
Dr. Cosgrove instructed Yr. Heustis to check with Town
Engineer to make sure the pumping station on 128 will be
able to handle the added amount of sewage from this addition
also with this addition if it will be able to handle the
addition of Drummer Boy Subdivision.
The questionnaire on Family Planning was shown to the
FAMILY Board so they would be aware that Federal Funds were available
PLANNING for this program.
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Dr. Ellicott said he was sure the L.V.N.A. had received
this questionnaire too.
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The advertisement for an emergency Cardio -Alert System was
shown to the Board. M.r. Heustis said he wondered if the Board CARDIO -
was interested in checking; with e civic organization to see if ALERT
they might be interested in installing this system in the am-
bulance.
Dr. Ellicott said before any action was taken it would be
best to check with Chief Spellman. Symmes Hospital and Mt. Auburn
Hospital because the system would not be of any use unless the
hospitals were equipped to receive the data from this machine.
Yr. Heustis said he hadrecoived plans for the new housing FF0"SINCx
for the elderly and he would like permission to have Mr. Lucas FOR
from Whitman & Howard. Inc. chock the plans. Permission was ELDERLY
granted.
The clerk informed the Board that this year because of the RABIES
building program the Rabies Clinic would be held at the Central CLINIC
Fire Station.
Mr. Heustis reported that the State Health Department had
refused permission to the Town to burn the demolition material CENTRAL
from the Central Block at the Town Sanitary Land Fill. The BLOC;
material will be taken to the Land Fill but it will have to be REFUSE
covered and not burnt.
Dr. Ellicott asked about commercial refuse depots.
Yr. Heustis explained that the Town ByLaws state that the
Town must provide a place for the disposal of household and
commercial rubbish in the Town, therefore the Town is responsible
The copy of the letter to the Sheraton Motor Inn from the SHERATON
State Health Department regarding the proximity of the sewage MOTOR INN
overflow at the Tnn to the Cambridge water supply was read and
placed on file.
Yr. Heustis explained that the manager at the Inn was
watching this problem very carefully and permanent repairs will
be made as soon as the weather permits.
The license for the Gredler Day Care Center was not signed sREDLER
by the Board. Mr. Heustis was instructed to check this Day Care DAY CAPE
Center with Mr. Irwin Building Inspector, to see if the safety DENTE;
ropairs that were noted on a previous inspection had been made.
The letter from Reverend Hall requesting a reduction of the ATTIC
fee for P. Food Establishment, Permit be r•educo _ from :x25.(,0 was
discussed. it was agreed the Attic should be classed as a soda
fountain and therefore the fee of $5.00 should be charged.
The application to keep 1 horse at 39 Robinson Had was
tabled until the abuttors were checked.
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The clerk reported that the Expense Budget for the Health
Department had beer cut by "3995. Changes are as follows: BUDGET