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Suzy Enos commented that some of the newer paths in MA have a 15 mph <br /> posted speed limit (like Shining Sea bikeway). Not so much for enforcement, but <br /> as a suggestion to ride elsewhere. She also pointed out that Mass Ave is not <br /> necessarily a safe alternative for faster riders, however. <br /> Howard Cloth talked about the school zone speed warnings and suggested these <br /> be installed on the path. People could see a message suggesting they be more <br /> careful/slow down. Ross Morrow warned that this may actually cause people to <br /> speed (happen s with drivers). Capt McLean said that these devices cost $15K <br /> or more. It's best to help people who want to do the right thing to do better; there <br /> are some people you won't reach, he said. If speed guidelines are introduced, <br /> he said, it's important that there be consistency across the towns. Police can't be <br /> the "courtesy police" on the bikeway, he added, saying that he had heard about a <br /> bicyclist running a red light in another bikeway town and getting tackled by a <br /> police officer. <br /> Capt McLean said such a speed limit might perhaps be enforced as a bylaw <br /> violation. The bikeway is not a public way so traffic laws can't be enforced on it. <br /> The right of way is owned by the MBTA; police do not have jurisdiction for <br /> speeding. <br /> Bill Widnall said that most people who might be a problem have speedometers, <br /> but others pointed out that a-bikes do not always have them. Since it's a <br /> commuter bikeway, it is reasonable that people would want to go faster during <br /> non-congested periods. He noted that there are a lot of kids on balance bikes <br /> who can randomly pull U-turns, etc. Peggy said that a few years back the <br /> committee put a letter in the newspaper encouraging parents to help kids learn <br /> how to ride bikes someplace other than the bike path. <br /> The discussion focused on the need for a courtesy and safety awareness <br /> campaign. George mentioned that the red "burma shave" signs are going to be <br /> posted soon but expressed frustration that the committee "goes round and round" <br /> on these issues without much resolution. Comments on introducing a formal <br /> awareness campaign included: <br /> • It's a good idea; people don't necessarily realize that the bikeway will be so <br /> crowded on the weekends. Could even do PR or editorials to try to spread the <br /> message. Need a way to get to the general public. <br /> • MassBike wants to make a video using muppets to emphasize courtesy on <br /> shared use paths. LexMedia is also interested in putting together videos. <br /> • People have flagged Strava segments on the bike path for competition. No <br /> way to mark whole bikeway as a hazard/place rides should not be tracked <br />